[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

So with the LA 6L combination, if i swap out chain for faster attacks i end up with around 39k dps with blood rage on.

If I put on chain I sit around 17k.

Why in the world would anyone use chain with LA?

Maybe I don't understand how chain works or maybe my lvl3 chain isn't a good comparison
Last edited by Cirdecus#2925 on Jan 22, 2016, 3:12:40 PM
Probably noob question: what lvl CWDT+IC should I use? Some people don't level up these gems after lvl 12-13 or so. What lvl of that setup is it recommended for this particular build? [Regular skilltree, 4.2k hp]
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Anavels wrote:
can i use
for endgame? not too rich xD


Multimod it with elreon and tora and it will be fine i think ^^
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vasan wrote:
Hey there, following this guide and the HC version of the skilltree. Really like it this far(lvl 80). I'm using LA+BR. And for me it feels a bit like that t6 and higher maps are kinda dangerous, was wondering if its because of my gear or just because im a lazy a** who doesnt want to use enduring cry every x seconds. I'm currently experimenting with other defensive CWDT Setups, so I'd love to get some recommendations(just noticed that vaal grace doesnt activate from CWDT :D). As well I'd love to hear what you guys recommend me to upgrade. Here's my Gear (ofc I survivability is #1 prio but I dont want to loose dps :D(well i should be easyily be able to get way more dps by upgradeing my bow(but anyways I feel good with the dmg I deal atm))). I got Frenzy just for sustaining charges on bosses, when the charges from bloodrage are about to run out.

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Sitting at 80 86 78 -60 @merciless and 6829 evasion 4800 life

My Skilltree atm
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https://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-73p9de4O_rpW-vzFfysNjTnUMHxbr4d2dvfI3I19UUfdDU4qIXbjnzH6wUkj9j7PN9SNv5UFFSBM_4bOSn2gn_4dTZK95u0_BbXUI9nGCIktgyzpQzHBM8LsMHEylJrxGbSGswDu2sG0xd2ofwJdaL6nKk107S5TYqxLeKbgyqllTT8nR-IFLdNvbIw6Qr02Ssgi4p2qbqqkOTY9tfLrYzWStUgRL9i91EKEb3X9Fr8mlWHiVUuMNonTcFI=
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Lightning Coil? - is it that much survivability?


Thank you for reading and your thoughts! And ofc big TY to Neversink for that AWESOME guide and that AWESOME lootfilter :D <3



Have the same Problem with Rare maps at lvl 91 XD (ca same HP, but around 9000 evasion) bosses and exile's can really kill you within seconds if you have a bad mod, i'm currently saving to 6-link my chest, will push my hp far over 5000, i hope it get's easier then... found a lightning coil today, maybe i will try it out...
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Azedex wrote:
Hey NeverSink,

ty for this awesome guide. Could finally come around to play Tornado und thought your build comes the nearest to my ideas.

I'm level 89 but got 3 skill points left (yeah hes working just fine like this :D)

Can you help me ? ty

Stats

4.4+k Life

19.5k Gmp Tornado with 7 Frenzy Charges
20.5k with Vaal Haste

51% Crit

using Hatred with empower and herald of ash


SkillTree


https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwIBm42v6wgu7YMZjgBe0359df66u-PEotwVp9T-yO967g78xQ2Nh3ZnoOOfSn1bryF2hs7BM04qTP9DMcMzWhq_1VO72sEuU9NvdO0FLY1-zZjqYnXLvqdlTb02R36E2aOKI_ZNko19MHx_KznUb_Kgn1FH51Qk_f_ePs-95o2_1CMwcd2oS3g6QgW1wuwqW4JeUuy0xQzypctVhW1sYqydqmyMtUjz6ioLcFIGIx9BAx4WvyaVYeJVS4w2lQXZxjKUfwKm4AiJmvFdaMqpyNzBSf4deu8=


Gear




well i could get around and updated it myself to 2.1

still using that unique setup and will stay at it. Hyrri's 10% Acro and Spell Acro is in my eyes very strong

i can say that i really love this unique :



i hope i can get around to test rigwald quiver
Hi Neversink,

I want to thank you for this awesome guide. I'm not "thaaaaat" much (~200 hours) into PoE, but this ranger finally makes fun! I may die at some enemies, but I not as often as I died with other builds.

Keep on the good work!
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Cirdecus wrote:
So with the LA 6L combination, if i swap out chain for faster attacks i end up with around 39k dps with blood rage on.

If I put on chain I sit around 17k.

Why in the world would anyone use chain with LA?

Maybe I don't understand how chain works or maybe my lvl3 chain isn't a good comparison



With chain, you can take out bigger packs. If a GMP+LA gives off 5 projectiles. Each of which can hit 3 adjacent targets.
Now with Chain, that's +2 monsters per 5 projectiles(15 individual targets). Each of which can hit 3 adjacent targets. You can imagine the destruction.
Do phys crit bowers usually get their crit chance maxed? Sitting at about 70%, but not happy when it doesn't crit. Should I utilize Increased Crit Strike gem, or Ass mark....or are none of those worth it
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illmtk wrote:
Do phys crit bowers usually get their crit chance maxed? Sitting at about 70%, but not happy when it doesn't crit. Should I utilize Increased Crit Strike gem, or Ass mark....or are none of those worth it


You should try HOI + COH + AM. With that combo HOI causes packs to be cursed very frequently, leading to 3 power charges almost always up. Plus you have an even higher crit chance on the cursed ones.. I've found clearspeed increased quite a bit.
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DuFFzbar wrote:
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illmtk wrote:
Do phys crit bowers usually get their crit chance maxed? Sitting at about 70%, but not happy when it doesn't crit. Should I utilize Increased Crit Strike gem, or Ass mark....or are none of those worth it


You should try HOI + COH + AM. With that combo HOI causes packs to be cursed very frequently, leading to 3 power charges almost always up. Plus you have an even higher crit chance on the cursed ones.. I've found clearspeed increased quite a bit.


Thank you. I will try this out. I assume we're keeping Hatred and dropping HoA

edit: oh yes...thank you duffman you have changed my life
Last edited by illmtk#1047 on Jan 23, 2016, 7:05:38 PM

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