[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

i put projectile weakness instead assassin marks and is fun see mob get knockback all the time

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horstkaracho wrote:

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Dkodr wrote:

With a +1 arrow quiver

you can switch out

with

You gain alot of damage and use less mana.

Thx mate. I tried that and like it. Have you tried drillneck or would you say it'S not worth it with a decent +1 arrow?

Gz on the uber kill btw. With charges and atziri flask I'm at 31k ts with lmp and 40k puncture. Below is my gear. If you have the time maybe you could give me some pointers what to upgrade before even attempting uber. Normal Atziri is no problem although I only have around 4k life. I've seen people do uber with this little life and they didn't get 1shot by the spears. They had way more dps though.

Shoudl i even try without a 6l puncture?

For mapping I use HoT - CoH - Ass Mark but for Atziri I change to PCoCS. I use all three heralds with the charisma cluster. I could respec out of Vaal Pact and change my Amu for a better dps one. With new boots and some gear changes I could be at ~4.3k life. Maybe that would be enough?

Gear

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As a rule I would say that u need at least 30k tornado and 50k puncture dmg wo flasks to run Uber. At the same time I would recommend having more than 50% chance to evade and 45%¤ spell dodge with atziri boots. Crit no less than 60% wo charges and 88%¤ chance to hit. Life from 4,5k and up, get at least 60 life on all items and go for double diamond rings with flat phys, accu, attack speed, leech and resists. Get capped resists. Learn the mechanics of the map by doing alot of normal Atziri runs and Vaal Temple 79 map. Use Seething flasks and Atziri flasks and Taste of Hate for dps boost. Remember to switch out +1 quiver against Atziri, it can easily hit reflect shield and oneshot you. This is what works for me, others may have different preferences and setup, the most important thing is that you feel ready and confident before you try Uber, the damage and life on the monsters are crazy high, everything is boosted 100% so it is also much faster, good manual dodging skills is needed. The different boss fights need different tactics also, check out Mathil's videos of him doing Uber to get an impression, remember that this was before 1.3 and the puncture nerf, the skill is alot less effective now. I would get a 6 link before I try, but thats just me, others may do fine with 5. The best way is to experiment with different setups and find out what works best for you, my advice is only general.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ixr8xY8VcXA

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Dkodr wrote:

So I managed my goal with this build that was to down Uber Atziri in Torment using tornado shot and puncture, had 2 portals left when it was over. Had 1 failed attempt at level 92 with alot less dps. Being able to kill stuff fast is key to getting this thing done it seems, combined with good dodging skills, flask management and knowledge about the mechanics. With flasks and charges up up I had 51k lmp tornado and 76k puncture with added arrow quiver. Crit chance at about 95% w 4 charges, 89% accu.


Gear:

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Skill tree:

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http://www.pathofexile.com/passive-skill-tree/AAAAAgIBAF4DHgW1BiMILgiJCpsVIBa_GY4ZtB9BIXYi4iP2JP0mlSoLKk0s6TBxMHwx-jIBMpQ2PTnUOkI_J0d-R-JKfUrIS3hNklFHUUxVS1b6W69daGHiYqxlTWegbIxtbG5pb55v8nBScNV1y3b3dwd313jrfVt9dX8CfyuDCYbOhxOHdonTjAuMNo19jb-QCpUFmvGbJpuNnKSdqqCfpDmm4KxHr-uyGbVIt7a5fL02vqfBM8pKyqnK08960IHTftQj1fjWitnG3Q3dqOOf5wrnVOd06NbqYuyw7YPvevPq_MX-uv_e

GZ on your uber kill. But I have a question. I see that you are using an additional arrow quiver + lmp instead of a 'normal' quiver + gmp. What do you think provides better clear speed? I tried to vaal some of my quivers on standard to get the additional arrow implicit to test it out myself but I fail miserable every time.

A good +1 quiver gives better clear speed with lmp than a normal quiver with gmp imo, this is how it feels. For example, when I kill Vaal bosses in the Atziri map they go down faster with the +1 quiver, so therefore I conclude that the overall damage output is bigger. It also had other benefits, like adding 2 arrows if you use a single shot high dps skill, like puncture, and in half regen maps, where the mana cost is less and u can sustain the skill more easily. Look at the prices on good +1 quivers in Torment, they reflect the op'ness, going for 10ex+ for a good one. It is ofc a balance here , where the quiver stats decides if its better or not. Lets do a rough comparison with my quivers.

The first one with +1 arrow and LMP(lesser multiple projectiles) gives me 32k tooltip(the DPS number you get in the game when you hoover over the skill with the mouse pointer) dps and 25 mana cost in my hideout
The second quiver gives with LMP 34k tooltip dps and 25 mana cost in my hideout, but it has 1 less arrow. My guildmates tell me the tooltip dps is calculated for 1 arrow, therefor the +1 quiver gives a total of 128k dps when hitting with all the arrows and the quiver with only 3 arrows gives 102k dps.





edit: In regards to the question if my +1 quiver with LMP is better than my normal quiver with GMP
the numbers are as follows:

My normal quiver with GMP has 24000 tooltip dps. 24000x5=12000k dps
+1 Quiver with LMP has 32376 tooltip dps. 32376x4=129504 dps

So I lost in these pages somewhere when I asked for help before and cant find the response lol. Anyway I was hoping someone could help me out as of how to improve my character? With herald of ashe/ice and hatred on im at 4187 DPS. I am really wanting to improve my character to keep up with some of my buds who seem to just trash me in dps. Ive seen some people walking around with 15k tornado shot dps which seems insane to me, so Im excited to start building up to that point.

My gear:


My Spec:
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-fXX-uu965woKm3jr_MVnoId2459Kfd0NW68hdobOwTMs6RUgIuJH4tCBpDnK0xm0vqdlTb02R351y-piVvp31znUb_Kgn38r1oowfI19I_ZNklFH51Qk_f_elQV_AjKU2cam4AiJmvFdaMqpjb8FtdQjMHFLeN2oOkLrFOjWtUhtbOd0cFIqC_PqcNWJ0x9BBiMDHha_YeImlYw2VUtsjJ2qNj0=

Im looking for suggestions on what to buy next and if im in the right direction with my spec. I only play in torment league. I seem to do okay on my own but when in groups I feel a lot more worthless compared to seeing my friends damage. Thanks in advance for any responses!

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Khesahn20 wrote:

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My Spec:
https://poebuilder.com/character/AAAAAgIAm40ILu2DGY4AXtN-fXX-uu965woKm3jr_MVnoId2459Kfd0NW68hdobOwTMs6RUgIuJH4tCBpDnK0xm0vqdlTb02R351y-piVvp31znUb_Kgn38r1oowfI19I_ZNklFH51Qk_f_elQV_AjKU2cam4AiJmvFdaMqpjb8FtdQjMHFLeN2oOkLrFOjWtUhtbOd0cFIqC_PqcNWJ0x9BBiMDHha_YeImlYw2VUtsjJ2qNj0=

Im looking for suggestions on what to buy next and if im in the right direction with my spec. I only play in torment league. I seem to do okay on my own but when in groups I feel a lot more worthless compared to seeing my friends damage. Thanks in advance for any responses!

Better bow (Decimation or Harbinger. Maybe Thicket) with Critchance on it. Around 300 pDPS.
Get Maligaro's Virtuosity.
Get better Quiver. Think about Drillneck.
Amulet & Rings are fine but try to get some Critmulti/pDPS/Critchance on them. (Also Int to drop the 30Int Node)
You seem far overcapped on Res if I'm right. You could switch to an evasion based chest piece - that should boost your defenses since belly has not much evasion but life. With all the %evasion that's pretty nice and you can reach 12-14k evasion pretty easily (aim for around 50+ chance)
Depends on what you wanna build but for DPS purposes one with 1.2k+ evasion, life and res should be better since you can use other slots for DPS, which are currently used for res. You're fine with around 4k hp for nearly everything and don't really need more than 4.5.

I would get Harrier + True Strike. Should boost your dps quite a bit.

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Y0UR wrote:

Yes this is happening

+1 Guide. Definitely one of the Best! Love it.

Curious if you had an ETA on the Bonus Windripper Guide? I mean I'm sure it takes time and I imagine you enjoy playing the game as well, but would love to see it.

Keep it fun!

Sort of getting towards the end of the build, but a drillneck makes my dps go down by 2k... do I need to spec into it or get a 6l to make use of the pierce function? Or does the tooltip lie. Because I am losing 300hp and 2k damage and mulit through using it..

Gear below.

i dont think drillneck is mandatory.a good quiver is has good imo.the peirce can be nice but the dmg inc wont be that hight and you lose lot of defencive stats(hp,resist,leech) also by using drillneck.i personaly choose to go without drillneck :)

p.s: since im posting this i got a question.wouldnt vaal pacte be god to get with some leech investicement on gear?with really hight phy dmg,vaal pacte is pretty damn amazing since you get hp back so quick.its a awsome passive to counter reflect also.

Hi,

I have 1 mod left on my bow:
Should I add lightning damage or increased elemental damage % with weapons?
Does the last one apply to heralds and hatred?