[3.0] NeverSink's ♣ INDEPTH Tornado&Archer Guide ♣ Beginner friendly ♣ Rapid clear ♣ All bosses

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horstkaracho wrote:

Edit: while we're on the subject:

just dropped

Is it worth the hassle getting all those pierce nodes and stuff to replace my +1 arrow quiv?

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Dkodr wrote:

With a +1 arrow quiver

you can switch out

with

You gain alot of damage and use less mana.

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daish0 wrote:

omg, you got a pretty good rare quiver and got +1 Arrow on it. Awesome! Use that with LMP - damage will be higher than Drillneck + Pierce Gem I bet (I usually don't look on tooltip, it does not calculate multiple projectiles I bet too).

Comparison:
+1 Arrow, allows LMP = +50% More Damage (means, you don't take the -50% Less Projectile Damage from gem)
Crit Chance and Multi does a lot in this build, good values on those is imho worth more than Drilneck itself

Drillneck needs at least 3 passive points to get the +30% pierce to get 100% cap with Pierce gem, but the first two are not bad though (+10% Projectile Damage).

Drillneck although means you need 1 more link for both Puncture and TS to get the increased damage.
But Drillneck is "only" increased damage (yeah, 100% is still very high)

Instead of Pierce gem you could use Increased Critical Strikes, or PCoC (I usually get charges from CoH with HoT; although it can be usefull on bosses like atziri where there are not a lot of adds) or Increased Crit Damage if you did not get it already.

In short: Damn, I would use that +1 Arrow quiver

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daish0 wrote:

Comparison:
+1 Arrow, allows LMP = +50% More Damage (means, you don't take the -50% Less Projectile Damage from gem)

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daish0 wrote:

Instead of Pierce gem you could use Increased Critical Strikes, or PCoC (I usually get charges from CoH with HoT; although it can be usefull on bosses like atziri where there are not a lot of adds) or Increased Crit Damage if you did not get it already.

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Desm0nt wrote:

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daish0 wrote:

Comparison:
+1 Arrow, allows LMP = +50% More Damage (means, you don't take the -50% Less Projectile Damage from gem)

Big mistake. Not +50% more Damage . Just +20%. You remove GMP with "50% Less Projectile Damage" but add LMP with "30% Less Projectile Damage".

I don't sure that 4 projectiles with LMP better than 5 projectiles with GMP + Drillneck.

Also, when a single target attack via Puncture two arrows fly misses sometimes in different directions, but not at the target.

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daish0 wrote:

Instead of Pierce gem you could use Increased Critical Strikes, or PCoC (I usually get charges from CoH with HoT; although it can be usefull on bosses like atziri where there are not a lot of adds) or Increased Crit Damage if you did not get it already.

Frenzy + GMP + CoH + Assasin's Mark get enough charges. If map with curse immune or boss with curse immune just switch "CoH + Assasin's Mark" to "Increase crit chance + PCoC" and don't care about charges.

Also with 40% pierce chance (drillneck + passiv nodes) our frezy + gmp often peirce and course whole packs of mobs and we do more damage and more crits.