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hey dime got a question

U mentioned basically that spell damage > everything else

Now I have these 2 gems:


According to that, the spell damage heavy one should give me more dps, but in my tooltip it shows less (exact numbers: damage in town: 12,812, damage with high spell damage jewel: 13,450, damage with the other gem: 13,822)

Is there some hidden damage or overall damage mod/attack speed mod is superior to spell damage after all?

thanks
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Aerinqq wrote:
hey dime got a question

U mentioned basically that spell damage > everything else

Now I have these 2 gems:


According to that, the spell damage heavy one should give me more dps, but in my tooltip it shows less (exact numbers: damage in town: 12,812, damage with high spell damage jewel: 13,450, damage with the other gem: 13,822)

Is there some hidden damage or overall damage mod/attack speed mod is superior to spell damage after all?

thanks


Attack speed with wands is the #1 tooltip dps stat on jewels for us. Next best stat would be 14-16% spell dmg while holding a shield, or 8% crit multi. The regular global attack speed roll can also provide good dps. My main point was that physical damage is not a top desireable stat on jewels for this build.
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Have you tried +1 frenzy blood dance boots with this build? Maybe that way you can use constant BR.
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
Last edited by Rupenus on Jul 17, 2015, 10:04:06 PM
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Rupenus wrote:
Have you tried +1 frenzy blood dance boots with this build? Maybe that way you can use constant BR.


Blood rage is pretty much an after thought right now. Would have to spend valuable points to get zealot's oath, lose ES, resists, etc with blood dance.

One warbands is over, I'll be getting so brinerot whalers and corrupt them to +1 level. Those are sick dps boots. That or kaiserin's unique which should come out soon. Expect it to be a pair of boots with mana stuff on it for wander :P
#1 spirit shield - #1 ES/all res diamond ring - 6T1 ES/WED/tri-res rustic sash mirror service
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stzbttln wrote:
My bad about the wrong pic, here is the correct one :

-damage with spell dmg per power charge : http://i.imgur.com/8t0xBz6.jpg

-damage with iron grip : http://i.imgur.com/RQdyldd.jpg

Iron Grip : The increase to physical damage from strength applies to projectiles as well as melee attacks.

It phys damage from strength also applies to projectile damage. It only increases physical damage, it's not a bug.


Also did a phys ref map with CWDT and IC, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cfs9IxG0j3o&feature=youtu.be

The cooldown on IC doesn't cause much problem due to the nature of how KB works. I don't think it'S essential but it helps out.

Oh man...I'm so blind. :-)



Here my calculations:

Normal Physical Dmg: ~1826 (18.22%)
Normal Elemental Dmg: ~10021 (81.78%)
Chance to Hit: 91% (average against same lvl)
This shows a table with Accuracy vs Ev from average Monster of Lvl x:
Spoiler
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/ccc?key=0ArsB7KohOhhpdFJucWQyUGdOXy03cXIyMzBVZDRWZFE#gid=1

You should have approximately 5160 Accuracy? With that you hit a standard Lvl 79 Mob at just 95%, 80+ getting worse...
Crit: 94.5%
Critmulti: 466%
APS: 3.48
Armour: 1244
Armour Dmg Reduction = Armour / (Armour + 12 * Dmg)
ES: 6587
All Ele Res: 75%
Block 25%

Lets assume all attacked monsters have 800 armour (max 930) and 40% Resistances (50% with Mod).

Average Physical Dmg: 1826 * 0.055 + 1826 * 0.945 * 4.66 = 8142, against Monster * 0.99 (Phys Reduction) = 8061
Average Elemental Dmg: 10021 * 0.055 + 1826 * 0.945 * 4.66 = 44681, against Monster * 0.6 (Ele Reduct.) = 26809
Average Damage: 52823, against Monster = 34870

Raw Physical Reflect @18% = 1451 Damage
18% * 0.75 (Block) * 0.93 (Dmg Red) = 12.56% or ~182 Phys Reflect per Hit

Raw Elemental Reflect @18% = 4826 Damage
18% * 0.75 (Block) * 0.25 (Res) = 3,375% ~163 Ele Reflect per Hit

Double Reflect ~345 Reflect Dmg on average per Attack.

(APS * Chance to Hit * Dmg = DPS per Monster)
3.48 * 0.95 * 182 = 602 Phys Dmg per second per Monster
3.48 * 0.95 * 163 = 539 Ele Dmg per second per Monster
3.48 * 0.95 * 345 = 1137 Phys+Ele Dmg per second per Monster


Physical Leech: 8142 * 0.99 (Phys Reduction) * 0.036 = 290
Elemental Leech: 44681 * 0.6 (Ele Reduction) * 0.02 = 536
Theoretical Attack Leech per second: 826 * 3.48 * 0.95 = 2731

Max Leech per second (6587 ES*0.2) = 1317
Life leeched per hit = 2% * 1.73 (+ Life Leech Rate) = 3.46%
20 / 3.46 = 5.78
To get full Life Leech Rate of 1317/s you need to hit at least 6 Monsters.


Conclusion:

Physical Reflect: At full Rate you only could outleech 2.19 monsters (1317/602), but with Acuity 4,41 ((2731×0,945+1317×0,055)÷602). Hitting 36 monsters simultaneously will kill you instantly.
Elemental Reflect: At full Rate you only could outleech 2.44 monsters (1317/539), but with Acuity 4,92 ((2731×0,945+1317×0,055)÷539). Hitting 40 monsters simultaneously will kill you instantly.
Double Reflect: At full Rate you only could outleech 1.16 monsters (1317/1137), but with Acuity 2,33 ((2731×0,945+1317×0,055)÷1137). Hitting 19 monsters simultaneously will kill you instantly.
Last edited by Firnefex on Jul 19, 2015, 11:15:59 PM
Hi, I messed up and chose this build thinking it would be a good end game build for a new player. I have since realized that I am not going to afford a 6L Shavronne's and crown of eyes.

I don't want to start all over though-- is there another more newb friendly build that can use almost the same passive tree? I'm level 54 atm so I have Ghost Reaver and am at Blood Magic (but havent' taken yet). I've followed the passive tree pretty closely-- is it a safe one to use for other builds as well?
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stzbttln wrote:
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Rupenus wrote:
Have you tried +1 frenzy blood dance boots with this build? Maybe that way you can use constant BR.


Blood rage is pretty much an after thought right now. Would have to spend valuable points to get zealot's oath, lose ES, resists, etc with blood dance.

One warbands is over, I'll be getting so brinerot whalers and corrupt them to +1 level. Those are sick dps boots. That or kaiserin's unique which should come out soon. Expect it to be a pair of boots with mana stuff on it for wander :P



I think with +1 frenzy charges + blood dance, you wouldnt even need zealoths oath. Ill give you a pair, we'll try.
"You have great power. You're right to be proud. It's unfortunate you have to die now, but I will honor you with 45% of my strength."
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razzle wrote:
Hi, I messed up and chose this build thinking it would be a good end game build for a new player. I have since realized that I am not going to afford a 6L Shavronne's and crown of eyes.

I don't want to start all over though-- is there another more newb friendly build that can use almost the same passive tree? I'm level 54 atm so I have Ghost Reaver and am at Blood Magic (but havent' taken yet). I've followed the passive tree pretty closely-- is it a safe one to use for other builds as well?

Overread the line with ~Lvl90 required? If you see mirror service its always a really expensive endgame build.
At least you have to show us your tree and gear to help! How many Respec points and Orb of Regrets do you have?
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Firnefex wrote:
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razzle wrote:
Hi, I messed up and chose this build thinking it would be a good end game build for a new player. I have since realized that I am not going to afford a 6L Shavronne's and crown of eyes.

I don't want to start all over though-- is there another more newb friendly build that can use almost the same passive tree? I'm level 54 atm so I have Ghost Reaver and am at Blood Magic (but havent' taken yet). I've followed the passive tree pretty closely-- is it a safe one to use for other builds as well?

Overread the line with ~Lvl90 required? If you see mirror service its always a really expensive endgame build.
At least you have to show us your tree and gear to help! How many Respec points and Orb of Regrets do you have?



Here it is:
https://www.pathofexile.com/fullscreen-passive-skill-tree/AAAAAwABAecNfA48DkgPqxGWFr8ZihqPJIsqCy2oNug6UkZpRnFKyFivWlJd8l8_X2pfsG1sbpduqm-ecFJw1XcHeA15aH_GgwmExYZghxOJ04_6m12btZykns2nMKiaqW6xkLQMtUi18rfWwBrBBMHFwzrKStDQ21nquuwY8pfynPPq9tr3vvsJ


I have about 10 respec poitns all combined
Last edited by razzle on Jul 18, 2015, 10:58:09 AM
is anyone here brave enough to run this for me and give me the maps dropped? or this could be for sale...


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Last edited by InAshesTheyShallReap on Jul 18, 2015, 2:47:55 PM

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