Serious Post: New PvP Gem

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trashs1 wrote:

i pray its block penetration

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http://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/861216


looks like spells are getting a serious buff

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kevshien wrote:

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trashs1 wrote:

i pray its block penetration

:)

YES PLZ

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BlackSpite wrote:

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kevshien wrote:

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trashs1 wrote:

i pray its block penetration

:)

YES PLZ

First, the game does not need any block penetration gems. Sword users are already OP in pvp. All you see are the same cut and paste 2H legacy Kaom builds everyone has in sarn arena. GGG's fault for giving sword users 2 nodes that each give 20% block penetration.

Secondly, to someone else's point earlier, you can have max block like I did, but if another player's crit chance and multiplier are out the roof, then the crit itself will kill you in 1-2 shots even with max block as someone eluded to naming hauntworld and shadowthefall.

But to reiterate the main point of this post, the 40% block penetration given from 2 nodes for sword users should be removed asap GGG. How "some" people can penetrate 75%-78% of max block is just dumb in itself as there is no counter to it. At least when RF was OP in PvP, legit PvPer's could counter RF and still win.

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BlackSpite wrote:

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kevshien wrote:

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trashs1 wrote:

i pray its block penetration

:)

YES PLZ

First, the game does not need any block penetration gems. Sword users are already OP in pvp. All you see are the same cut and paste 2H legacy Kaom builds everyone has in sarn arena. GGG's fault for giving sword users 2 nodes that each give 20% block penetration. Even though I switched my build up, from incinerate to trapper (both PvP specced), I "had" max block 76/78 and was still getting 1 shot by the same 3-4 sword 2H users. With anyone else, block worked fine like it should especially with tempest shield reflect. The only possible way to kill the cut and paste builds was to hope my 4L molten shell + Chance to Ignite + Fire penetration + Conc Effect with a Flammability curse would kill them on the initial pop, which it did minimally as they come in attacking with a Ruby Flask. I conclude with this, if a block penetration gem is added to the game, then wtf is the point of block then? Everyone would just be glass cannons, but wait, 2H cut and paste builds would still dominate there too because they will still have 40% block penetration from nodes + a block penetration gem that some of you are in awe about. (go to sarn arena you will know what im talking about. won't name any people you will see for yourself).

Secondly, to someone else's point earlier, you can have max block like I did, but if another player's crit chance and multiplier are out the roof, then the crit itself will kill you in 1-2 shots even with max block as someone eluded to naming hauntworld and shadowthefall.

But to reiterate the main point of this post, the 40% block penetration given from 2 nodes for sword users should be removed asap GGG. How "some" people can penetrate 75%-78% of max block is just dumb in itself as there is no counter to it. At least when RF was OP in PvP, legit PvPer's could counter RF and still win.

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First of all, its 3 nodes that give a total of 55%. Second of all, BLOCK REDUCTION NODES ARE A COUNTER FOR BLOCK BUILDS. WITH RF NERFED, HOW THE FUCK ARE MELEE CHARACTERS SUPPOSED TO COUNTER MAX BLOCK? (only exception is crit based dagger builds) Ever faced a max block + aegis build as a melee character who isnt using a sword? Yeah, good luck. Even with block reduction, its still hard as fuck to kill someone with that build. Let me repeat myself, BLOCK REDUCTION IS A COUNTER FOR BLOCK BUILDS. You can't ask GGG to remove block reduction just because it counters your build. Thats just plain stupid.

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BlackSpite wrote:

And considering that there is no dmg scaling or dmg reduction against players

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BlackSpite wrote:

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kevshien wrote:

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trashs1 wrote:

i pray its block penetration

:)

YES PLZ

First, the game does not need any block penetration gems. Sword users are already OP in pvp. All you see are the same cut and paste 2H legacy Kaom builds everyone has in sarn arena. GGG's fault for giving sword users 2 nodes that each give 20% block penetration. Even though I switched my build up, from incinerate to trapper (both PvP specced), I "had" max block 76/78 and was still getting 1 shot by the same 3-4 sword 2H users. With anyone else, block worked fine like it should especially with tempest shield reflect. The only possible way to kill the cut and paste builds was to hope my 4L molten shell + Chance to Ignite + Fire penetration + Conc Effect with a Flammability curse would kill them on the initial pop, which it did minimally as they come in attacking with a Ruby Flask. I conclude with this, if a block penetration gem is added to the game, then wtf is the point of block then? Everyone would just be glass cannons, but wait, 2H cut and paste builds would still dominate there too because they will still have 40% block penetration from nodes + a block penetration gem that some of you are in awe about. (go to sarn arena you will know what im talking about. won't name any people you will see for yourself).

Secondly, to someone else's point earlier, you can have max block like I did, but if another player's crit chance and multiplier are out the roof, then the crit itself will kill you in 1-2 shots even with max block as someone eluded to naming hauntworld and shadowthefall.

But to reiterate the main point of this post, the 40% block penetration given from 2 nodes for sword users should be removed asap GGG. How "some" people can penetrate 75%-78% of max block is just dumb in itself as there is no counter to it. At least when RF was OP in PvP, legit PvPer's could counter RF and still win.