Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
He is using that ring because he uses it on his wander, his current gear isn't 100% optimized for spectral throw right now. Also, Kipad had not made his ring when Fyndel mirrored ventor's. Ventor's is more for wanders, while kipad's is for ST. They are a good choice if you need only 1 fire resist on your ring and can cap cold and lightning in other ways.
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Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
He is using that ring because he uses it on his wander, his current gear isn't 100% optimized for spectral throw right now.
yes , the attackspeed ring is for my wander , the rings i would use if could "perfect craft it" would be
1 with phys-wed-es %es fireres accuracy
2 with phys-wed-es %es cold res accuracy + 8% all res bandit thats the best minmax you could do calculated it 8 allres would be 1 node , light res on shield would be a 3 point waist or a potential 6% block waist if you get lightres on your shield meaning you would loose 2 passiv points if you mirror a light res shield
and a belt with movmentspeed instead of armour not sure about that yet , tested phys reflect and it was joke mostly just ele was hard but if I see that have problems without the armour on belt i wouldnt get movmentspeed
rest is 100% optimized though i would NEVER dropp the blockchance on my shield making that is 1 of the biggest mistakes you can do especially with the new "kinda reflect" problems ( not even counting the not legacy es of 30es lose)
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Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
He is using that ring because he uses it on his wander, his current gear isn't 100% optimized for spectral throw right now.
yes , the attackspeed ring is for my wander , the rings i would use if could "perfect craft it" would be
1 with phys-wed-es %es fireres accuracy
2 with phys-wed-es %es cold res accuracy + 8% all res bandit thats the best minmax you could do calculated it 8 allres would be 1 node , light res on shield would be a 3 point waist or a potential 6% block waist if you get lightres on your shield meaning you would loose 2 passiv points if you mirror a light res shield
and a belt with movmentspeed instead of armour not sure about that yet , tested phys reflect and it was joke mostly just ele was hard but if I see that have problems without the armour on belt i wouldnt get movmentspeed
rest is 100% optimized though i would NEVER dropp the blockchance on my shield making that is 1 of the biggest mistakes you can do especially with the new "kinda reflect" problems ( not even counting the not legacy es of 30es lose)
agree pretty much - if I was going to mirror a shield JUST for ST then I would get Onslaught Song with the block chance for reducing reflect dmg - I use Havoc Weaver because I dual spec it for use on my Wander as well.
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Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
He is using that ring because he uses it on his wander, his current gear isn't 100% optimized for spectral throw right now.
yes , the attackspeed ring is for my wander , the rings i would use if could "perfect craft it" would be
1 with phys-wed-es %es fireres accuracy
2 with phys-wed-es %es cold res accuracy + 8% all res bandit thats the best minmax
Ahh, okay, that's what I was thinking. I have mirrored tri res ES boots, tri res ES belt, and Axn's Onslaught Song ES Shield (Spell/%ES/ES/Fire/AllRes/Block).
Gonna mirror KiPad's Morbid Knuckle (Phys/WED/ES/%ES/Acc/Cold) and the Apocalypse Loop he made yesterday (Phys/WED/ES/%ES/Acc/Fire).
Will be perfectly res capped!!
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Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
He is using that ring because he uses it on his wander, his current gear isn't 100% optimized for spectral throw right now.
yes , the attackspeed ring is for my wander , the rings i would use if could "perfect craft it" would be
1 with phys-wed-es %es fireres accuracy
2 with phys-wed-es %es cold res accuracy + 8% all res bandit thats the best minmax you could do calculated it 8 allres would be 1 node , light res on shield would be a 3 point waist or a potential 6% block waist if you get lightres on your shield meaning you would loose 2 passiv points if you mirror a light res shield
and a belt with movmentspeed instead of armour not sure about that yet , tested phys reflect and it was joke mostly just ele was hard but if I see that have problems without the armour on belt i wouldnt get movmentspeed
rest is 100% optimized though i would NEVER dropp the blockchance on my shield making that is 1 of the biggest mistakes you can do especially with the new "kinda reflect" problems ( not even counting the not legacy es of 30es lose)
kipad has the rings that you want now.
There are multiple ways of getting capped resists. By using rainbowstrides, you waste 2 points in dex nodes. Also, when using rumi's concoction, the difference between 70% block and 75% block isn't worth losing 60 resists (30 cold, 30 light), in my opinion. Same as the difference between 30% and 36%, not worth losing so much res.
Onslaught song + lioneye's paws = uncapped resists. 75% block and ability to evade.
Onslaught song + rainbowstrides = capped resists. waste 2 dps points in dex. 75% block, cannot evade.
Glooom call + lioneyes paws = capped resists. 70% block, ability to evade. Provides higher resists so ele weakness is less dangerous
Gloom call + rainbowstrides = capped resists. Waste 2 dps points in dex. 70% block, highest resists achievable out of these set ups. No evasion.
Wasting 2 points is HUGE because they are most likely going to be crit multiplier nodes, and this build stretches far enough as it is.
I don't even know how we came to talk about shields honestly, we were talking about rings. I know you love your block chance though, to each his own. I guess when I said "his gear" isn't 100% optimized for ST I should have said "his ring" because the rest is up to preference.
Oh and onslaught has 542 ES, gloom call has 523. So it's 19 ES, not 30, making it a negligible difference.
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Why did you choose to get attack speed on your second ring instead of accuracy? Figured ur DPS is already high enough where a little more iAS wouldnt affect your clear speed. On the other hand, more consistent leech is always a good thing, especially for double/triple/quad reflect.
He is using that ring because he uses it on his wander, his current gear isn't 100% optimized for spectral throw right now. yes , the attackspeed ring is for my wander , the rings i would use if could "perfect craft it" would be
1 with phys-wed-es %es fireres accuracy
2 with phys-wed-es %es cold res accuracy + 8% all res bandit thats the best minmax you could do calculated it 8 allres would be 1 node , light res on shield would be a 3 point waist or a potential 6% block waist if you get lightres on your shield meaning you would loose 2 passiv points if you mirror a light res shield
and a belt with movmentspeed instead of armour not sure about that yet , tested phys reflect and it was joke mostly just ele was hard but if I see that have problems without the armour on belt i wouldnt get movmentspeed
rest is 100% optimized though i would NEVER dropp the blockchance on my shield making that is 1 of the biggest mistakes you can do especially with the new "kinda reflect" problems ( not even counting the not legacy es of 30es lose)
kipad has the rings that you want now.
There are multiple ways of getting capped resists. By using rainbowstrides, you waste 2 points in dex nodes. Also, when using rumi's concoction, the difference between 70% block and 75% block isn't worth losing 60 resists (30 cold, 30 light), in my opinion. Same as the difference between 30% and 36%, not worth losing so much res.
Onslaught song + lioneye's paws = uncapped resists. 75% block and ability to evade.
Onslaught song + rainbowstrides = capped resists. waste 2 dps points in dex. 75% block, cannot evade.
Glooom call + lioneyes paws = capped resists. 70% block, ability to evade. Provides higher resists so ele weakness is less dangerous
Gloom call + rainbowstrides = capped resists. Waste 2 dps points in dex. 70% block, highest resists achievable out of these set ups. No evasion.
Wasting 2 points is HUGE because they are most likely going to be crit multiplier nodes, and this build stretches far enough as it is.
I don't even know how we came to talk about shields honestly, we were talking about rings. I know you love your block chance though, to each his own. I guess when I said "his gear" isn't 100% optimized for ST I should have said "his ring" because the rest is up to preference.
Oh and onslaught has 542 ES, gloom call has 523. So it's 19 ES, not 30, making it a negligible difference.
You said my gear isnt optimized and i said it is on explain on whats missing (you linked your setup on page 153 already misleading people not 100% optimized), there is no point in using lioneys paws we both know that and both gloom call and osnlaught waist 2 dex nodes i dont know what you mean , i calc it point effectiv wise and Onslaught always wins with 2 passiv points more( dont tell me 5% less dmg is waisted )like i already said dont know what there is to argue about "highest res possible" beeing overcapped wont help you its about MIN MAX and thats beeing capped and thats with onslaught if you would play a ele weakness map (mostpeople play there maps blue anyways you use your light/cold res flask anyways) so the clear winner is onslaught ( i know alot of people cant afford axns shield fee but that doest mean we have to tell them other things are better it might be cheaper but not BETTER i mean savin 100ex for 5% less block is worth to some people but not people who 100% min max)
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