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i am at a loss

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Yeah there is two part obviously, having a good build and being good at the fights (also farming upto them and the currency entry efficiently).

Most of the boss fights, recovery is pretty important. Unless you have enough dps to trivialise the fight, they are probably going to go on long enough that flasks may run out. Often multiple sources of recovery is needed for different times in the fight.

Block is good, spell suppression is often also good, as a lot of these bosses have high damage spells.

I would say for looking at you builds on your account, they are getting close to being able to do bosses, but you probably want something stronger while learning the fights, so that you have some leeway for making mistakes in the fights.

I'm not across what is going to be good for the upcoming league, but I'm sure you can find something. Those fights are not easy without a strong build. I still find them difficult, though I played a build that could face tank most Uber mechanics. The strength of the build does make a big difference.

Shaper is a pretty good fight to learn, once you have something strong. The POE bosses are pretty frustrating for punishing weaker builds. A lot of mechanics that compound with slow dpsing.

You must be pretty close to doing some of these if you completed exarch. That fight is not easy, even if it was the quest version, there is a lot of challenges in the fight to overcome.


ow yeah doing exarc was pretty difficult i was at my last portal but survived but this was a few leagues ago i hope this season to finallly get there. do wanne thank you for the encouraging words :). ill keep an eye out for a block based build because it seems everybody here agrees block based seems easyer then other types so we will see ill let you all know how the new league launch goes
No worries. I heard them talking about potential phasing out shaper and elder in the future, in the recent podcast, which I found a bit dismaying, as I think they are still good, and actually better than the recent bosses they have implemented.

The game needs these middling bosses for player that are learning to interact with. In my opinion, the old Katarina was really good for this, so that players get to do some bossing at an intermediate level. The fight was a bit too long, but removing it was not a good idea.

A lot of the new bosses have frustrating mechanics and poor visual clarity, and are not great in my opinion. The one only they have implemented that is good recently in my opinion is the pirate shipping boss. Fair mechanics, easy to see, decent reward vs. difficulty. One portal and bugging out is a potential frustration for some people, but overall it is good. The others not so much.

Normal Atziri might be a good one to try if you haven't done it and are ever back on your RF character. Reflect shouldn't bother you, just be careful that her curse reflect doesn't drop your fire res too much. You do have to get to the fight first, particularly the three guards in the room before are tricky and need some attention to the order they are killed in, but she is probably one of the only old middling bosses left now, other than the guardians etc.

Let us know what build you end up on for the new league. I'm going to play, but just winging it, so not much help on that one.
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Mar 3, 2026, 10:36:44 PM
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No worries. I heard them talking about potential phasing out shaper and elder in the future, in the recent podcast, which I found a bit dismaying, as I think they are still good, and actually better than the recent bosses they have implemented.

The game needs these middling bosses for player that are learning to interact with. In my opinion, the old Katarina was really good for this, so that players get to do some bossing at an intermediate level. The fight was a bit too long, but removing it was not a good idea.

A lot of the new bosses have frustrating mechanics and poor visual clarity, and are not great in my opinion. The one only they have implemented that is good recently in my opinion is the pirate shipping boss. Fair mechanics, easy to see, decent reward vs. difficulty. One portal and bugging out is a potential frustration for some people, but overall it is good. The others not so much.

Normal Atziri might be a good one to try if you haven't done it and are ever back on your RF character. Reflect shouldn't bother you, just be careful that her curse reflect doesn't drop your fire res too much. You do have to get to the fight first, particularly the three guards in the room before are tricky and need some attention to the order they are killed in, but she is probably one of the only old middling bosses left now, other than the guardians etc.

Let us know what build you end up on for the new league. I'm going to play, but just winging it, so not much help on that one.


ow i tried that fight but died every time and i tried to avoid the reflect atziri but my circle is just to big to avoid her. after that never played against here again
You should not need to avoid her reflect clone with rf. You should be able to pretty much run reflect maps without immunity, as your DOT doesn't reflect, and trap damage doesn't reflect to you. One of the good things on the build. It's possible your shield charge may be doing enough reflecting to kill you if that is happening. There is a lot of other damage in the fight as well though.

GL for the start. I'm still trying to decided which league and build to play.

(Also, I was just having a look on your profile, and some of your RF characters look a lot stronger than I remember. Not sure if you have been updating these, or I wasn't paying attention to the right ones, but I think a couple of those are looking pretty solid, and should be capable of doing everything including up until getting 4 watch stones, even if the fights are tough. If you do end up playing them again, it is probably mostly about learning the specific boss mechanics of each fight, and there is probably some people that can help with that, or video guides available.)
Last edited by Belegur85#5784 on Mar 4, 2026, 10:40:12 PM

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