Path of Exile: Mirage Teasers

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Druidenjoyer#0031 wrote:

i love how some people want kingsmarch removed because it bothers them that the little guys can login just to send shipments and can get lucky with divines and mirror shards. these guys play 12+ hours every day and it bothers them that someone with a life outside the game can make currency also with kingsmarch

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Senju_Hyoketsu#6098 wrote:

The "hate" for Kingsmarch is because it's the only passive resource generation in the game, and a strong one at that ; meaning that you're simply losing out on currency if you opt-out of it. By essence (being the only passive resource generation) it is not like any other mechanic in the game, so stop saying it is.

Sure it's optional, and you can choose not to interact with it, if you don't mind having less currency than other players.

That being said, the most popular way of playing the game is within a trade league, which is a pvp environment where players compete against one another through their purchasing power.

Kingsmarch both feels and IS mandatory, UNLESS you don't care about competition and the value of your own currency within the economy. To simplify, if you don't partake in Kingsmarch, your divines are worth less. Stating anything else is asanine.

Would be a waste to straight up remove it from the game, because of the work GGG has put into it, but it should definitely be reworked.

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Yashub#4163 wrote:

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Senju_Hyoketsu#6098 wrote:

The "hate" for Kingsmarch is because it's the only passive resource generation in the game, and a strong one at that ; meaning that you're simply losing out on currency if you opt-out of it. By essence (being the only passive resource generation) it is not like any other mechanic in the game, so stop saying it is.

Sure it's optional, and you can choose not to interact with it, if you don't mind having less currency than other players.

That being said, the most popular way of playing the game is within a trade league, which is a pvp environment where players compete against one another through their purchasing power.

Kingsmarch both feels and IS mandatory, UNLESS you don't care about competition and the value of your own currency within the economy. To simplify, if you don't partake in Kingsmarch, your divines are worth less. Stating anything else is asanine.

Would be a waste to straight up remove it from the game, because of the work GGG has put into it, but it should definitely be reworked.

That’s just not true. I put many hours and a lot of cost into making dust and farming gold, which itself costs divines. I craft the dust manually because I’m not going to pay divines for items just to instantly have millions — so that’s a time investment I could’ve spent on Delve, Heist, or any other farming strategy.
Sure, I could buy a gold rota, but I decided to run my own scarabs, 8‑mod maps, and strat. But even then, I’m investing resources, and it might end up that after two weeks I get 2, 1, or even 0 mirror shards — so there’s real risk that my effort won’t pay off.

There’s nothing to ‘fix’ here, because every nerf would just create an oversupply of gold that people wouldn’t have anything to spend on. Today alone I made 3 million gold, which means I could not log in for 9 days — but I put in the work and the cost to get that, and I could’ve farmed something else instead. So overall, what exactly is the issue?

And at the end of every league there’s barely anything left to do anyway — challenges are done, the player peak is gone, and trade is basically dead. Nobody wants to craft anything because prices are too high or nothing sells. Kingmarch is good specifically because you can play it until the very end of the league without needing interaction with other players, and there’s always something to tweak or optimize.

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Senju_Hyoketsu#6098 wrote:

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Yashub#4163 wrote:

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Senju_Hyoketsu#6098 wrote:

The "hate" for Kingsmarch is because it's the only passive resource generation in the game, and a strong one at that ; meaning that you're simply losing out on currency if you opt-out of it. By essence (being the only passive resource generation) it is not like any other mechanic in the game, so stop saying it is.

Sure it's optional, and you can choose not to interact with it, if you don't mind having less currency than other players.

That being said, the most popular way of playing the game is within a trade league, which is a pvp environment where players compete against one another through their purchasing power.

Kingsmarch both feels and IS mandatory, UNLESS you don't care about competition and the value of your own currency within the economy. To simplify, if you don't partake in Kingsmarch, your divines are worth less. Stating anything else is asanine.

Would be a waste to straight up remove it from the game, because of the work GGG has put into it, but it should definitely be reworked.

That’s just not true. I put many hours and a lot of cost into making dust and farming gold, which itself costs divines. I craft the dust manually because I’m not going to pay divines for items just to instantly have millions — so that’s a time investment I could’ve spent on Delve, Heist, or any other farming strategy.
Sure, I could buy a gold rota, but I decided to run my own scarabs, 8‑mod maps, and strat. But even then, I’m investing resources, and it might end up that after two weeks I get 2, 1, or even 0 mirror shards — so there’s real risk that my effort won’t pay off.

There’s nothing to ‘fix’ here, because every nerf would just create an oversupply of gold that people wouldn’t have anything to spend on. Today alone I made 3 million gold, which means I could not log in for 9 days — but I put in the work and the cost to get that, and I could’ve farmed something else instead. So overall, what exactly is the issue?

And at the end of every league there’s barely anything left to do anyway — challenges are done, the player peak is gone, and trade is basically dead. Nobody wants to craft anything because prices are too high or nothing sells. Kingmarch is good specifically because you can play it until the very end of the league without needing interaction with other players, and there’s always something to tweak or optimize.

I guess we don't have the same definition for the word "facts".

And people keep claiming that being opposed to Kingsmarch means being opposed to the little guy being able to make some currency. Yet it has nothing to do with that whatsoever.

As explained countless times the issue is that it feels mandatory and that one is simply missing out if not partaking; which is problematic.

And wake up, if you make 3 divines but everyone else also makes 3 divines (likely more if they play more), your 3 divines ain't worth much. Just because you are able to get a few divines through Kingsmarch doesn't mean it helps you.
Your perceived increase in purchasing power is just an illusion.

In the end Kingsmarch is just a mandatory fomo mechanic for anyone who takes league start as well as the trade league (pvp) economy seriously.

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Esubane#6099 wrote:

But in Keepers it started becoming annoying.

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Karavadonis#7672 wrote:

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Esubane#6099 wrote:

But in Keepers it started becoming annoying.

Gee, i wonder why? Maybe because loot was nerfed so hard that only profitable non sweat mechanic was kingsmarch? I farmed all my money in 3.27 via stacked decks gamble. Now it feels mandatory to do in every league. Lets delete stacked decks.
And lets be honest, new breach is much more annoying. I will definately block it.

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Esubane#6099 wrote:

Ground loot being shit is a result of 8 leagues of kaladrification.