Feedbacks and Suggestions vol.1

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

Respectfully, you don't understand what a sleeper build is, and how hype makes builds popular even if they are not the greatest overall.

Alright then go ahead and create a new original budget friendly HCSSF build that is better than slam build and come back to post the pob link here... We are waiting :)

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

Respectfully, you don't understand what a sleeper build is, and how hype makes builds popular even if they are not the greatest overall.

Alright then go ahead and create a new original budget friendly HCSSF build that is better than slam build and come back to post the pob link here... We are waiting :)

Why would you require me to do that? And who is we? I thought it's just one MrEpic, or are you multiple people now?

We're waiting.

~ArtCrusade(s)

So you can back up your claims that popular builds arent the greatest (best build available at the moment) and that popularity is a meaningless indicator of the game's balance... Go ahead bro I'll be eagerly waiting for that pob link

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

So you can back up your claims that popular builds arent the greatest (best build available at the moment) and that popularity is a meaningless indicator of the game's balance... Go ahead bro I'll be eagerly waiting for that pob link

I list 8 reasons why builds become popular that have nothing to do with strength and you seriously ask me to invest hours of work to flesh out a PoB instead. As if that would sway your opinion lmao.

By your own metric RF is a super strong build seeing how it's top 2 pick rate in SC Keepers, even above skills like Penance Brand of Dissipation.

What I'm saying is not a "claim" but established fact. PoeNinja only represents a fraction of the playerbase and only includes profiles that are publicly available. You only ever get a glimpse at the complete picture anyway, and as I won't tire to repeat relative build strength is not alway reflected in pick rate.

RF is very strong before uber lategame, it is a great starter that transitions to a very fine t16 farmer which is what most players will be spending most of their time on, DPS isn't super amazing but like you said being super tanky and having good QOL makes it a good meta candidate.

Can you show me in my original post where I said that GGG should nerf RF, because I didn't? RF along with SLAM are the best things a chieftain can build and that is a really easy way to walk around with 90 resists for no reason which is undoubtedly very powerful for hardcore esp SSF. I'm just asking GGG if its possible to improve balance for some things and to allow more diversity for other things, I don't know why you are against improving balance and diversity and arguing with me when I just want the game to be better and more fun when it comes to allowing players to have success using their creativity to create builds as was the original design philosophy of path of exile. That is all

Moving the goalposts now, are we? So you agree that pick rate does not mean the build is equally powerful then. Thank you very much for confirming.

I just said that RF is a very powerful starter that transitions to a very good t16 farmer which is what most people will be spending most of their league time doing.

So, very powerful, very meta very popular but in this case not nerf worthy, I simply said that traps other than fire trap seem to be lacking in this game mode. Thank you for confirming that all you're looking for is a gatcha moment and you are arguing in bad faith. [Removed by Support]

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MrEpic#2507 wrote:

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ArtCrusade#4438 wrote:

Respectfully, you don't understand what a sleeper build is, and how hype makes builds popular even if they are not the greatest overall.

Alright then go ahead and create a new original budget friendly HCSSF build that is better than slam build and come back to post the pob link here... We are waiting :)

I wanted to open my profile and discuss my non-meta, highly optimized and budget friendly Siphoning Trap build with you (day 3 hcssf Ubers on a shoestring budget) but unfortunately you seem to be otherwise preoccupied.

Until then.. we are waiting. :)