Restart league, every league once please - league cycles

I'd like to share my thoughts on PoE league cycles. I really enjoy playing at the start of a new league, but I think the timing could be optimized based on player engagement.

My ideal scenario would be to restart leagues once either of these conditions is met: when the active playerbase drops to around 50% of launch numbers, or after roughly 2 months have passed. For me, the first 3-4 weeks of a league are the most engaging—after that, the experience tends to lose momentum a lot.

The interesting part is that implementing more frequent league resets would require minimal resources from the PoE1 team. I genuinely believe that many players would return for a fresh economy alone, even without significant content changes. A clean slate and renewed competition can be incredibly appealing.

What are your thoughts on this approach?

Some players wouldn't come back just because the economy is reset, they had their league start, cya in 4 months, some players would quit because they reset the economy this early, some player want to continue their current playthrough, especially if they only play on the weekends...
You would end up with even fewer players, so you might aswell join some discord private group found league...

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Strickl3r#3809 wrote:

Some players wouldn't come back just because the economy is reset, they had their league start, cya in 4 months, some players would quit because they reset the economy this early, some player want to continue their current playthrough, especially if they only play on the weekends...
You would end up with even fewer players, so you might aswell join some discord private group found league...

1: Some players wouldn't come back just because the economy is reset

That's true, but that's fine.

2: Some players want to continue their current playthrough

Just play on the existing servers—no one will force you to switch to the new ones, so no issues here either.

3: You would end up with even fewer players

Yes, and this doesn't need to be bad. You'd have all the players who enjoy fresh starts playing together, and that's good enough.

4: So you might as well join some Discord private group found league

Nah, I don't like that option either—it's too expensive, and with too few people it doesn't make sense to me.

I think the game would die pretty quickly if that was to be implemented.

PoE burnout is real and most people don't enjoy playing PoE all the time. League start is an event once every 3-4 months. People take time off work and plan around that.

Having that happening each month, or more frequent even, would not be the same and alot of people would get sick of it pretty fast I think.

It kinda is already happening with the 2 month cycle of PoE and PoE2. At least for me, it's too much PoE.

U can say, well if those people are burnt out they should just skip those leagues and that's true. It still diminishes the importance of league starts tho, because it happens much more often.

Maybe it wouldn't be the end of the world, but I certainly would enjoy PoE less and maybe quit altogether. Also it would probably keep people from starting the league late, because at that point they know that most of the others will start the new league in a few days/weeks anyway.

I think the rhythm or "pattern" or frequency of league starts/restarts has already been thought out, it went from 3 months, to settlers being a year, to now 4 months between leagues.

Restarting a current league just because the playerbass drops to 50% as a way to "bring it back" isn't going to do anything. This is why they release little events sometimes while the parent league for that season is playing.

There are also private leagues, so really what you're kinda suggesting can already be done, it just seems kinda redundant and I feel like if it was the way to go, Kripp would've recommended this to Chris years ago instead of the model we currently have today (which is where it came from).

I can second the suggestion on private leagues. They're some of the most fun you can have playing PoE

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derbe#6071 wrote:

The interesting part is that implementing more frequent league resets would require minimal resources from the PoE1 team. I genuinely believe that many players would return for a fresh economy alone, even without significant content changes.

We are literally week 3 main league without any significant content change brother.

https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3872574
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/3877494

At first we need their good will because in this league only what we got is empty promises, the same is last league with petals.

No, I like the leagues at their current length; it gives me time to get the challenges done. A fresh economy means nothing to me.

-100.

If you want a reset, play SSF, HC, or a private league.


I think most players would be pretty upset if the league just dynamically reset with zero no content added.

I mentioned that a new league would be very different from playing a private league for me (not really good eco). If you don't like to start over after 2 months or so, I understand that this is not for everyone, but no one will take away the ongoing league from you guys. The people who don't play the league any longer would join the new one, and those who want to continue the ongoing league can just keep doing it—it won't hurt you at all. I can't understand the logic; it makes absolutely no sense to me.

From a monetization standpoint, as you can see here: https://steamcharts.com/app/238960, we're already at around 50% player retention from the start after 3-4 weeks. Imagine if 50% of those remaining 50% would start over—that's approximately 45k people who would restart. It would cost practically nothing to implement, and potentially 45k people would buy something. Sounds like a win-win to me. If you can't see it, okay, but I can. :)

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SunsetVista#4840 wrote:

No, I like the leagues at their current length; it gives me time to get the challenges done. A fresh economy means nothing to me.

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Piousqd#0073 wrote:

-100.

If you want a reset, play SSF, HC, or a private league.


I think most players would be pretty upset if the league just dynamically reset with zero no content added.

You didnt read my post carefully.

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Sadaukar#2191 wrote:

I think the game would die pretty quickly if that was to be implemen....

I never said, every month...


PS: POE2 very different then POE1 (for me fully something else, not everyone like POE2)