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I just look at steamcharts? Its pretty obvious. A lot of people are still playing, comparing % like this is pointless because the peak player amount is different for mercenaries and settlers(that was also like a 1 year league so its not even a normal one to compare to). No clue where these % numbers even are from but the curve doesn't lie lmao, game still has a good amount of players daily. 80-100k is 80-100k. And that's only on steam, there's probably quite a bit more people on console and standalone client.
Could you explain what "curve doesn't lie" means? I am seriously confused.
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Nov 14, 2025, 2:29:59 PM
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Could you explain what "curve doesn't lie" means? I am seriously confused.
The steamcharts curve. The screenshot I posted. Look at it. Its going up and down consistently, every day. That's what we call good player retention. Its hovering around 80-100k when usually by week 2 most people quit cus they're done with the league. Even I'm still playing after being done with 40/40, because its still fun for me to farm divines so I can gamba them all for Stacked Decks.
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Posted byToforto#2372on Nov 14, 2025, 2:31:48 PM
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The steamcharts curve. The screenshot I posted. Look at it. Its going up and down consistently, every day. That's what we call good player retention. Its hovering around 80-100k when usually by week 2 most people quit cus they're done with the league. Even I'm still playing after being done with 40/40, because its still fun for me to farm divines so I can gamba them all for Stacked Decks.
But it's lie. I literally gave you data on this day.
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Nov 14, 2025, 2:33:53 PM
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But it's lie. I literally gave you data on this day.
Steamcharts isn't lying lmao, its accurate player numbers. And its only from steam, not even from all the platforms people play this game on.
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Posted byToforto#2372on Nov 14, 2025, 2:40:33 PM
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I know lmao, ofc the game will feel bad when you hide 90% of the loot with a turbo strict filter and don't even pick up all scarabs,chaos or bubblegum currency. I've sold thousands of alts,fusings and chromes for so many divines already thanks to Faustus. And 3-to-1 scarab vendor recipe is just always big money, I get 100-300c per selling session depending on how many scarabs I have(more if I get a lucky containment from the vendor recipe). People just need to actually pick up the loot in this ARPG. It is there, and I also pick up all uniques that disenchant for 10k+ dust, that's how I'm about to send my second mirror shard shipment of the league.
The thought of hiding singular stacks of chaos orbs, or even scarabs on my filter is actually wild.
It is crazy that I found 2 guys on this forum with so polar opposites. One teaches me to not pick up anyhting but somehow still be wealthy and you that picks up a bunch of stuff. Basically I pick up a bit more than I should I admit that and I traded thousands of small currency into chaoses too and then into divines. Still does not changes the fact that if you are unlucky you will go long with zero drops which will just destroy your mood.
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Posted byIspita#4020on Nov 14, 2025, 2:46:57 PM
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I know lmao, ofc the game will feel bad when you hide 90% of the loot with a turbo strict filter and don't even pick up all scarabs,chaos or bubblegum currency. I've sold thousands of alts,fusings and chromes for so many divines already thanks to Faustus. And 3-to-1 scarab vendor recipe is just always big money, I get 100-300c per selling session depending on how many scarabs I have(more if I get a lucky containment from the vendor recipe). People just need to actually pick up the loot in this ARPG. It is there, and I also pick up all uniques that disenchant for 10k+ dust, that's how I'm about to send my second mirror shard shipment of the league.
The thought of hiding singular stacks of chaos orbs, or even scarabs on my filter is actually wild.
It is crazy that I found 2 guys on this forum with so polar opposites. One teaches me to not pick up anyhting but somehow still be wealthy and you that picks up a bunch of stuff. Basically I pick up a bit more than I should I admit that and I traded thousands of small currency into chaoses too and then into divines. Still does not changes the fact that if you are unlucky you will go long with zero drops which will just destroy your mood.
Yeah I agree, it sucks to not get any good drops. Which is why I pick up so many things to do my best to consistently make chaos from Faustus and asynch trade.
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Posted byToforto#2372on Nov 14, 2025, 2:48:20 PM
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Yeah I agree, it sucks to not get any good drops. Which is why I pick up so many things to do my best to consistently make chaos from Faustus and asynch trade.
Yea same. That is left for me picking up bread crumbs. Anyway I always try to move away from picking up more stuff but then I only realise I just get poorer if I do. Basically all my currency is from small trades. I like killing monsters and looting stuffs. Sadly the game moved too far away from this model. All you have to do is get level boosted then speed farm only pick up big items and farm pinnacle bosses or craft for profit.
Anyway good write up.
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Posted byIspita#4020on Nov 14, 2025, 2:58:37 PM
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Steamcharts isn't lying lmao, its accurate player numbers. And its only from steam, not even from all the platforms people play this game on.
I am not saying steamcharts is lying. I have the same data from this site. What I am saying is that YOU are lying, making claim based on feelings how you interpret curve. I gave you player retention data based on steamcharts data on day 14.11.2025 with 2 last recent leagues.
So claim "Looks more healthy than other leagues to me" is false. That's why I am asking you. How did you get to this conclusion?
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Nov 14, 2025, 3:07:22 PM
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other leagues covers a lot more leagues than the last 2. Last leagues success could be due to the long break from settlers. Settlers was a banger that lasted forever.
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Posted byLonnie455Rich#2087on Nov 14, 2025, 3:16:58 PM
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other leagues covers a lot more leagues than the last 2. Last leagues success could be due to the long break from settlers. Settlers was a banger that lasted forever.
Good point Lonnie, that's why I asked for clarification.
https://poedb.tw/us/League#ConcurrentPlayers
Overall it's even worse if we talk about other ones. Necropolis was the worst obviously in recent times, but we are at the level of Crucible, which had a lot of D4 players so start numbers were inflated with new players. Overall in recent times we can say without doubt that only Necropolis was worse than current league if we talk about player retention.
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Posted byDxt44#4050on Nov 14, 2025, 3:48:39 PM
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