No credit for Uber Elder in Shapers Realm

Hi Team,

I got a carry for Uber Elder in Shapers realm and the objective did not complete. I retrieved the voidstone and am 4/4 with all maps being T16 but hovering over the voidstones still says I need to defeat the elder in the shapers realm. Similarly, the favorite slot is not unlocked.

Asking in Global, they advised the completion flag broke.


Bug Report ID: #3,393,248,767

Hi,

Wondering if you got this fixed somehow. I have the exact same issue; have the voidstone, not the fav slot. And hovering the voidstone also says I did not complete it. Never had this happened before after a carry.

I had this happened today. I paid for an Uber Elder carry, got my voidstone, but did not receive credit for the kill. So no map slot unlock or passive point for my tree?

Is there something we can do about this? How is it possible to receive my voidstone but not the rest of the kill rewards? I kinda want/need that favored map slot and passive point and did pay for the kill?

Ref# 4,173,351,431

Has been a random occurrence bugs for several years now. Sometimes I get credit, sometimes I don't. No commonality that I could see.

Gets reported at the start of every league. My best guess is not on GGG's radar because you are paying for a carry and most likely joining their instance, and it's not your own instance. Thus, very low priority. If it was your own instance failing to give credit, different story.

There's a non-zero chance if it ever gets bug fixed, it could result in carry service requiring them to join your own instance (which would up costs since they can only do one at a time) in order to get full credit.

I can see what you're saying, but regardless of who's "instance" you're in, it's a multiplayer game that allows you to join others' instance and it should work properly. If people are paying (trading for currency/services) it most definitely should not matter who's instance you join and the game should work regardless.

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Boltz_4_Life#1003 wrote:

If people are paying (trading for currency/services) it most definitely should not matter who's instance you join and the game should work regardless.

I have no stake in this bug report as I just care about getting Voidstones early on, but that's not how services in multiplayer games work. You wouldn't offer a service that doesn't work. The carries are most likely suggesting to bug report so they don't get a bad rating or whatever on the service site.

If it was to get changed so only the instance owner gets credit, the service provider would adapt to join the player instance to give credit.

Services are created to fill gaps in a game's systems. Devs don't work around the service providers. If GGG decides to add systems to counter the existence of a service, the providers will just scatter to find a new service to provide/profit with. In this case, it would be joining the player instance instead and carrying one person at a time instead of 5.

I'm not saying it will happen. But I have played other multiplayer games where that is exactly how it works. Only the person who opens the portal gets credit so they'd hired a carry to kill it. Same way you can currently hire someone to kill your Aul in Delve or any other boss you want a carry for and they have different rates depending on the boss difficulty/time and they will knock out the requests like a paid quest log.

Anyways, good luck on your bug report. Mainly posted as a heads up this has been a bug for quite literally, years now. It's been around long enough that some of the established service providers even have copy pastes saying it may happen :P

Thanks for the reply.

I totally get what you're saying. GGG has nothing to do with services, but they are responsible for making things work in the game.

Now, I have been buying boss services for several leagues (years) and this is the first time I have had this problem.

Is it a bug? I don't know. I find it really weird that it would reward me with my voidstone and not the rest of the things tied to the kill. How could it separately be an issue ever?

Anytime I've gotten the carry, it's been in other people's hideout. It's always worked. What could have changed all of sudden where I didn't get credit? No idea.

Regardless of what people running services do, I don't care. What I do care about is getting credit for something in the game that was accomplished. If my character isn't a boss killer and I have someone help me, so be it. Regardless, it should give me credit no matter who's hideout I'm in. The game should read I was present for the kill.

I find it hard to believe GGG wouldn't care about this happening in their game? If they want to change it where it only counts in my hideout, that's fine with me... just make sure it counts every single time. I don't care where I officially get credit, I just want the credit. Especially when I'm paying someone to help with it as that costs me currency which costs me time.

I also had the issue today. Got the voidstone but no fav slot or atlas point.
The thing is we paid for an in game service with in game currency. It's not RMT or something that is punishable. I also bought carries for several leagues now and have never had this issue.
Is it possible to fix this bug? Or do I need to kill Uber Elder again?

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Boltz_4_Life#1003 wrote:

I find it hard to believe GGG wouldn't care about this happening in their game? If they want to change it where it only counts in my hideout, that's fine with me... just make sure it counts every single time. I don't care where I officially get credit, I just want the credit. Especially when I'm paying someone to help with it as that costs me currency which costs me time.

Sorry, I should clarify.. it's not that I think they don't care, it's that it is low priority compared to all the other issues. Because only people who are buying a carry from someone else and joining their instance are randomly impacted. Anyone who kills the boss on their own (or had someone join on them) gets the full rewards.

There is this gray line they have to dodge around because by fixing it the way you're wanting, you're rewarding people for not engaging with the content they have designed around. Voidstones are designed to be mile markers each league that players achieve to enjoy the full end game experience. And being able to buy carries for that stuff trivializes stuff.

I'm not against the services by any means. If you need a carry, by all means, get someone to do it. I played Shield Charge ignite last league for a giga mapper so I absolutely needed 2 carries, lmao. Pretty sure I had the same issue with my favorite slot and got it later on when I had like 5x the DPS and tank. But I can easily see Mark saying something along those lines if asked in a Q&A. The consistency should absolutely be fixed, but it's not priority since it's a service not provided by GGG.

Sorry to derail the thread. I just have a different opinion on service vs feature.

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Etvein#1213 wrote:

Is it possible to fix this bug? Or do I need to kill Uber Elder again?

Killing Uber Elder in your own instance (or having someone join your instance to kill it) will fix missing rewards.