Kinetic Rain Silent Nerfed - Where's the Transparency?

New ZiggyD sneakpeak at breach 2.0 features a look at Kinetic Rain, and he mentioned he has been informed that not only is KR moved to act3, but initial damage numbers have been nerfed, explosions buffed.

Fairly expected, but why is this not in an update section of patch notes? GGG knows everyone is planning their league starts, so what gives?


ZiggyD gameplay, clipped to start at KR showcase:
https://youtu.be/x00nIXnU-_U?si=xO-cW6OBbxkKXL2a&t=522

“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Last bumped on Oct 30, 2025, 12:46:14 PM
I assumed they were making updates but not posting them since usually there are updates daily and there has only been 1 update. I figured they would be posted later in a longer list instead.
"
I assumed they were making updates but not posting them since usually there are updates daily and there has only been 1 update. I figured they would be posted later in a longer list instead.


Last patch notes update for 3.27 was 4 days ago, and featured a single change.

We are overdue for change update, and they dont seem to have a problem adding a small number of updates at a time.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
Last edited by Piousqd#0073 on Oct 28, 2025, 12:59:59 PM
"
Piousqd#0073 wrote:
"
I assumed they were making updates but not posting them since usually there are updates daily and there has only been 1 update. I figured they would be posted later in a longer list instead.


Last patch notes update for 3.27 was 4 days ago, and featured a single change.

We are overdue for change update, and they dont seem to have a problem adding a small number of updates at a time.


Yes like i said.

They is no amount of updating they're required to do. For all we know they could post 75 updates in 1 day. They're not bound by some agreement to do it every day.
Last edited by Lonnie455Rich#2087 on Oct 28, 2025, 1:09:17 PM
"
"
Piousqd#0073 wrote:
"
I assumed they were making updates but not posting them since usually there are updates daily and there has only been 1 update. I figured they would be posted later in a longer list instead.


Last patch notes update for 3.27 was 4 days ago, and featured a single change.

We are overdue for change update, and they dont seem to have a problem adding a small number of updates at a time.


Yes like i said.

They is no amount of updating they're required to do. For all we know they could post 75 updates in 1 day. They're not bound by some agreement to do it every day.


Are you just arguing to argue? I'm not claiming any kind of requirement has been violated, I am complaining about lack of updates on changes that that have been decided on already.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
"
"
Piousqd#0073 wrote:
"
I assumed they were making updates but not posting them since usually there are updates daily and there has only been 1 update. I figured they would be posted later in a longer list instead.


Last patch notes update for 3.27 was 4 days ago, and featured a single change.

We are overdue for change update, and they dont seem to have a problem adding a small number of updates at a time.


Yes like i said.

They is no amount of updating they're required to do. For all we know they could post 75 updates in 1 day. They're not bound by some agreement to do it every day.


Oh, nevermind. I recognize you. The HCSSF guy who wants the game balanced around his niche. Enjoy.
“Freedom is what we do with what is done to us.”
I actually never said I wanted the game balanced around hcssf. Merely that t17s were 100x more toxic if you played hc and the overall balance of the game drastically changed for hc when it hardly scratched the difficulty of the game in sc.

And no, im not actually arguing. Im just saying that ggg doesnt have to post their adjustments as soon as theyre made. You have no proof they're ninja adjusting things because the patch hasn't launched. If they posted every change they made there would likely be 100s of changes and retractions of those changes a day and they would have to hire someone just to type out all those changes.

Last edited by Lonnie455Rich#2087 on Oct 28, 2025, 1:15:42 PM
They've never been transparent.

They've never acknowledged when they were wrong (years of no async trade because Chris had one bad day in D3?).

They never promised to be clear about nerfs, or not change things behind the scene.

But they dont have to be, they are just a gaming company, nothing more or less. No different than the people who make Candy Crush.
"
trixxar#2360 wrote:
They've never been transparent.

They've never acknowledged when they were wrong (years of no async trade because Chris had one bad day in D3?).

They never promised to be clear about nerfs, or not change things behind the scene.

But they dont have to be, they are just a gaming company, nothing more or less. No different than the people who make Candy Crush.


This is flatout incorrect. The dev manifestos are clear insights why they take certain design decisions. They have shown they are open to discussing with the community on livestreems and pods when certain decisions upset the community and have then worked on compromises between their vision and the community's expectations.

The reasoning wasn't "I played D3 and didn't like it" either. How dishonest!

Lastly, likening GGG to the devs of Candy Crush is asinine. Just the fact that the monetization of their products is a difference as stark as night and day (CC is designed around monetization whereas GGG takes the ethical approach of no p2w; CC is widely regarded as predatory and manipulative in that regard), but go off.

You can criticise design decisions without making up lies I'm sure. Try.
The opposite of knowledge is not illiteracy, but the illusion of knowledge.
Last edited by ArtCrusade#4438 on Oct 30, 2025, 4:59:52 AM
For now, the patchnote update only says it's been moved to A3 unless I missed something. Surely GGG has to update the damage numbers today if they're actually nerfed, no? Doing that on launch day would suck big time....Or even worse, not addressing it at all so people go in blind after planning their build around it....
Last edited by SloppyJoker#3490 on Oct 30, 2025, 10:00:11 AM

Report Forum Post

Report Account:

Report Type

Additional Info