Help with scaling damage

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Its still not very good but I swapped a lot of the useless passives out, gave you impale, gave you pride aura and put in some cheaper rares for damage and resists along with eldritch implicits.


I sincerely doubt it, but many thanks for the effort. Pride aura is equal to another support gem, nothing more. And it's not always efficient, since you'd gain its full bonus only if enemies stand 4 seconds next to you (or you next to them). And you lose both attack and movement speed from Haste. Thus, you end up with pretty much the same thing, except the movement speed and the faster reaction times in your attacks. There is nothing useless in the passives I've chosen, as I mentioned earlier. There are no skills there which grant you a different multiplicative layer (such as "more damage"). Impale might be useful, I might just try to see if it fits anywhere for minimal loss. If you're talking about equipment, you need to provide actual numbers. For example, this mace has 2x more damage than your current one. This armor somehow gives you 100% extra global phys dmg bonus, etc. Still very far away from even 1 million, if you ask me. Not to mention 20 million or 240 million, as I've heard people claim.

EDIT: although Impale is just a washed-up version of bleeding. It just does 10% of the initial damage, even if it stacks for a while. Aggravated bleed does 210% damage. It seems that impale isn't even worth the fuss, struggling to raise the chance, but I'll try to see if it does some good.


Did you even look at the PoB? You can swap items and weapons at will to see damage changes.

You are using pride AND haste in my version. And yes it takes a few seconds to ramp but its still the best phy damage aura. With no ramping you are still at 1 million dps.

Impale is also not bleeding. They scale in very different ways. Also using the bleed nodes will not get you very far unless you are specifically a bleed build.
Last edited by gladiatorpie#3317 on Jul 17, 2025, 11:00:51 AM
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Did you even look at the PoB? You can swap items and weapons at will to see damage changes.

You are using pride AND haste in my version. And yes it takes a few seconds to ramp but its still the best phy damage aura. With no ramping you are still at 1 million dps.

Impale is also not bleeding. They scale in very different ways. Also using the bleed nodes will not get you very far unless you are specifically a bleed build.


Using both auras requires mana reservation investment and it will leave you with too little mana for skills in the end. I have a Flesh and Stone aura that I can't even use (it reserves less than Pride) because I end up with my mana drained pretty fast. Before I get better equipment, with extra flat mana, I'm stuck with only one aura and this one is the best overall. And when I'll have enough mana, I'd rather use Flesh and Stone than Pride.

Yes, I am a bleed build and that's why any passive nodes that I'll remove from my build will mean less bleeding damage, because most of them have "increased damage with ailments".
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Orbaal#0435 wrote:
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https://pobb.in/2bo2vt21UnpC


Would be 1.1M if you ticked close range box in config to get the groundslam bonus dmg.


Forgot that was a thing with this skill. Assuming all worst case scenarios its just under a mil dps then.
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Did you even look at the PoB? You can swap items and weapons at will to see damage changes.

You are using pride AND haste in my version. And yes it takes a few seconds to ramp but its still the best phy damage aura. With no ramping you are still at 1 million dps.

Impale is also not bleeding. They scale in very different ways. Also using the bleed nodes will not get you very far unless you are specifically a bleed build.


Using both auras requires mana reservation investment and it will leave you with too little mana for skills in the end. I have a Flesh and Stone aura that I can't even use (it reserves less than Pride) because I end up with my mana drained pretty fast. Before I get better equipment, with extra flat mana, I'm stuck with only one aura and this one is the best overall. And when I'll have enough mana, I'd rather use Flesh and Stone than Pride.

Yes, I am a bleed build and that's why any passive nodes that I'll remove from my build will mean less bleeding damage, because most of them have "increased damage with ailments".


The mana issue is easily solved with -mana cost of skills ring which is a benchcraft as long as a ring has an open prefix. And this is not a bleed build. Nothing you have scales bleeding. Flesh and stone is an awful choice compared to pride too.

Again did you actually open the PoB?
Last edited by gladiatorpie#3317 on Jul 17, 2025, 11:15:59 AM
Ok I give up. I really tried to help u, but u seem to be convinced that u're right and everyone else is wrong.

U're the one having issues scaling damage, but u don't listen to advice from people who can scale builds to upwards of 50mil dps.

Just to be clear, u're not scaling bleed damage. U don't benefit from bleed in ur build whatsoever except having some minor bleed explosions.


I wish u all the best and hopefully someday u will understand how PoE works. I can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped.

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Again did you actually open the PoB?


I can't open the link, I don't know why. But even if I could, if you'd actually managed to raise the final dps, it's probably because of some godly gear that you crafted from your pen, which has no relation to gems and passive skills, and you're still very far even from 1 million dps even with that godly gear, I'm pretty sure.

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Nothing you have scales bleeding.


I respectfully disagree. All physical damage bonus and all damage with ailments supports bleeding. The Vulnerability curse helps with bleeding. The Gladiator class helps with bleeding. Even attack speed helps with bleeding, because you get a higher chance to apply bleeding before the old one expires. It's all focused on phys dmg and bleeding.

EDIT: Give me links to actual items on the wiki or poe trade market, so I can look at what would bring a consistent improvement to the overall damage, if you want to help me see the light. And then I'll try to calculate for myself.
Last edited by Hitman473107#7521 on Jul 17, 2025, 11:24:38 AM
Ok I am tapping out too. You dont want to learn. And you have so many fundamental misunderstandings about how this game works. Like you think attack speed helps bleed because your bleed chance is so low but a real bleed build has 100% chance to bleed.

One last question though. Do you know how to paste the build into PoB with that link I posted? It will allow you to quickly swap out items and passives see how much damage you lose and gain.
Last edited by gladiatorpie#3317 on Jul 17, 2025, 11:29:04 AM
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EDIT: Give me links to actual items on the wiki or poe trade market, so I can look at what would bring a consistent improvement to the overall damage, if you want to help me see the light. And then I'll try to calculate for myself.


You can do that in PoB...
There are trade links built into it.


That said: None of the stuff he is using is godly by any means. Not even close.
This is day2 or day3 gear in a fresh league
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Ok I am tapping out too. You dont want to learn. And you have so many fundamental misunderstandings about how this game works. Like you think attack speed helps bleed because your bleed chance is so low but a real bleed build has 100% chance to bleed.


Speed helps with overall damage and increases your chances to apply bleeding. Why would I focus on extra chances to bleed, when I can have two bonuses from extra speed, like I said? Bleed lasts a couple of seconds, so there's no need to have 100% chance to bleed. If bleed lasts 4 seconds and you have 1 attack per second, you need only a 25% chance to apply bleeding, in order to have a continuous flow, because bleed doesn't stack. Tap out if you want to, I came here to reach a conclusion, not to accept everything someone tells me. Give me a link to PoE Planner for the passive tree that you're talking about, if you want me to check it out. I had no problems with that website.
Last edited by Hitman473107#7521 on Jul 17, 2025, 11:31:03 AM
Orbaal, gladiatorpie, Sadaukar, you're wasting your time) This isn't his first thread like this, read his other threads. He doesn't need anyone's opinion except his own.

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