Town costs too much

There is so much micro-managment that it makes me depressed just to interact with it. I just can't: Not loging in for some random ship thru the night just to reset them. Awful!

Everybody on this thread is giving advice according to how they play the game.

For a low-tier slacker like me, who has never even fought Atziri, let alone any of the Ubers, Jitter912's "Sweat Shop" suits how I play. A few maps a day (nothing higher than Tier 10s, for the most part) keeps the operation running, including farming, mining, smelting, and disenchanting, with the occasional shipments. Sure, I could just run "juiced blight-ravaged maps" all day, but that could get repetitious and boring after a while. Fiddling with Kingsmarch is a welcome break to mapping, and adds some meaning to the process beyond accumulating currency.

Don't assume that what is fun for you is fun for everyone.

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AdanOfDarkmoon wrote:

Everybody on this thread is giving advice according to how they play the game.

For a low-tier slacker like me, who has never even fought Atziri, let alone any of the Ubers, Jitter912's "Sweat Shop" suits how I play. A few maps a day (nothing higher than Tier 10s, for the most part) keeps the operation running, including farming, mining, smelting, and disenchanting, with the occasional shipments. Sure, I could just run "juiced blight-ravaged maps" all day, but that could get repetitious and boring after a while. Fiddling with Kingsmarch is a welcome break to mapping, and adds some meaning to the process beyond accumulating currency.

Don't assume that what is fun for you is fun for everyone.

Sweat Shop works well when you want to accumulate runes.
You want the occasional Chaos orb.
You want some scarabs.

Base your time off how long it takes for a boat to go to the closest port.
say 32 min.
You look at how long it will take to run the town for 32 min .
it will cost something like 100 gold.

You can set up 3 boats
go pay 100 gold

Your boats will return and the town will shut down minutes later.
in that 32 min your town will have produced 3 minimum shipments.

when you want, go back to town loot your boats .
load the minimum shipment.
Pay 100 gold ....

leave ... town is working at 100% efficiency . for low income.
you will accumulate gold this way and will be able to afford upgrades .

you will adjust to produce mining bars when needed for town upgrades .
but for the most part you can do this while leveling from level 1 and not have the town keeping you broke.

When you are high level you go from sweat shop to Crop Shop ...
Let the town run on farming 24/7 only to accumulate massive shipments ...
I don't really run mappers ...

you only have 2 hours a day ...
you got 12 boats in ...
you spent 300-400 gold.
you accumulated 3000 gold.
you got scarabs and runes.
you spent less than 5 minutes combined time in town.

Town cost scales a bit faster than your income can scale.

Plain T16 alch and go mapping will make about 6-8k per map
Little juiced T16 is about 10-13k per
Optimized towards gold T16 is 30-60k per
Most T17 strategies are 30-60k per
Optimized toward gold T17 is 100-200k per

So scaling is there, you will go 10X your baseline gold per hour or more with progression eventually.

Town without mappers can be sustained somewhat easily with these basic strategies, but WITH mappers you need at least 30k per map to even consider it. Preferably something along 100k per map would be nice.

I'm fine with gold being useful. It gives it some value on its own and makes it worthwhile to invest your map juice into. A map that drops 150 000 gold will be "worth" much more than one that drops 15 000.

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AdanOfDarkmoon wrote:

Everybody on this thread is giving advice according to how they play the game.

For a low-tier slacker like me, who has never even fought Atziri, let alone any of the Ubers, Jitter912's "Sweat Shop" suits how I play. A few maps a day (nothing higher than Tier 10s, for the most part) keeps the operation running, including farming, mining, smelting, and disenchanting, with the occasional shipments. Sure, I could just run "juiced blight-ravaged maps" all day, but that could get repetitious and boring after a while. Fiddling with Kingsmarch is a welcome break to mapping, and adds some meaning to the process beyond accumulating currency.

Don't assume that what is fun for you is fun for everyone.

It has nothing to do with what's fun; that's why I said it's OBJECTIVELY bad advice. If you listen to some of the things said in this thread you are setting your gold on fire and completely wasting your time. And not wasting as in "playing a game in your free time," wasting as in "tying your shoelaces after you take off your shoes."

Again, please: look up someone reputable, someone who knows what they are talking about, and educate yourself on how these systems work. Don't just blindly trust randos from the forums, especially if those forums have rules against directly calling out misinformation.

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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AdanOfDarkmoon wrote:

Everybody on this thread is giving advice according to how they play the game.

For a low-tier slacker like me, who has never even fought Atziri, let alone any of the Ubers, Jitter912's "Sweat Shop" suits how I play. A few maps a day (nothing higher than Tier 10s, for the most part) keeps the operation running, including farming, mining, smelting, and disenchanting, with the occasional shipments. Sure, I could just run "juiced blight-ravaged maps" all day, but that could get repetitious and boring after a while. Fiddling with Kingsmarch is a welcome break to mapping, and adds some meaning to the process beyond accumulating currency.

Don't assume that what is fun for you is fun for everyone.

It has nothing to do with what's fun; that's why I said it's OBJECTIVELY bad advice. If you listen to some of the things said in this thread you are setting your gold on fire and completely wasting your time. And not wasting as in "playing a game in your free time," wasting as in "tying your shoelaces after you take off your shoes."

Again, please: look up someone reputable, someone who knows what they are talking about, and educate yourself on how these systems work. Don't just blindly trust randos from the forums, especially if those forums have rules against directly calling out misinformation.

That's your opinion, and you are free to state it. However, you are treading on thin ice implying that anyone who doesn't do things your way is of inferior intelligence. Support has been swinging the Probation hammer rather vigorously of late.

I was already using what amounts to the "Sweat Shop" system, and I am having a fine time. I can get upwards of 4k gold out of a tier 8 map, which is plenty sufficient to keep my low level peons churning out resources while I am away iRL. Am I shipping millions? No. But then, I also don't do millions of DPS. I'm sure I could, if only I "[L]ook[ed] up someone reputable, someone who knows what they are talking about," but I don't want to. It might surprise you to know that some players don't enjoy following someone else's guides. If I'm going to play their way, might as well leave the playing to them.

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AdanOfDarkmoon wrote:

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ARealLifeCaribbeanPirate wrote:

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AdanOfDarkmoon wrote:

Everybody on this thread is giving advice according to how they play the game.

For a low-tier slacker like me, who has never even fought Atziri, let alone any of the Ubers, Jitter912's "Sweat Shop" suits how I play. A few maps a day (nothing higher than Tier 10s, for the most part) keeps the operation running, including farming, mining, smelting, and disenchanting, with the occasional shipments. Sure, I could just run "juiced blight-ravaged maps" all day, but that could get repetitious and boring after a while. Fiddling with Kingsmarch is a welcome break to mapping, and adds some meaning to the process beyond accumulating currency.

Don't assume that what is fun for you is fun for everyone.

It has nothing to do with what's fun; that's why I said it's OBJECTIVELY bad advice. If you listen to some of the things said in this thread you are setting your gold on fire and completely wasting your time. And not wasting as in "playing a game in your free time," wasting as in "tying your shoelaces after you take off your shoes."

Again, please: look up someone reputable, someone who knows what they are talking about, and educate yourself on how these systems work. Don't just blindly trust randos from the forums, especially if those forums have rules against directly calling out misinformation.

That's your opinion, and you are free to state it. However, you are treading on thin ice implying that anyone who doesn't do things your way is of inferior intelligence. Support has been swinging the Probation hammer rather vigorously of late.

I was already using what amounts to the "Sweat Shop" system, and I am having a fine time. I can get upwards of 4k gold out of a tier 8 map, which is plenty sufficient to keep my low level peons churning out resources while I am away iRL. Am I shipping millions? No. But then, I also don't do millions of DPS. I'm sure I could, if only I "[L]ook[ed] up someone reputable, someone who knows what they are talking about," but I don't want to. It might surprise you to know that some players don't enjoy following someone else's guides. If I'm going to play their way, might as well leave the playing to them.

What the post response is trying to say is that regardless of how casual your play style is or how little time you want to invest in the game, some of the suggestions being given are sub-optimal.

If you enjoy playing "your way" and don't mind that your way is less efficient/rewarding than it could be at the given level of time invested, then more power to you.

But if you want to receive the most value out of the mechanic you are choosing to engage with, then I suggest you heed the counter advice given, or better yet, do your own research into the mechanic.