Upcoming Changes to Sap of the Seasons

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Narks_ wrote:

Shouldn't you ban everyone using this?

They're exploiting an oversight, this happened before.

Maybe reddit wasn't mad enough?

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BINARYGOD wrote:

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gruumine wrote:

So are we going to ban the folks using this build as well? Because clearly they “exploited” the unintended mechanism. Clearly they “ruined” the T17 farming economy.


lol.

The thing itself is not what was wrong that other time, it was what they did with it - that is usually the way it goes.

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Echothesis wrote:

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Linus1985 wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

Mr. Roberts, this is a great post, thank you for sharing thoughts with the community. Could you please apply same logic you've expressed here to how group MF tactics works in your game?:)

People gather together an aurabot, few MF-capable glass cannons (they have aurabot, so more free space on gear for MF) and an MF culler, get more MF just from being in party, and go printing divs, mirrors, T0 uniques at a rate no "normal" solo player can hope to achieve no matter how many years of playtime invested. Is this not "so overly broken", in your opinion?

solo play is just as effective sometimes even more.

Random fluctuations aside, shared loot generation means that party will always be greater than the sum of their stats. Simple math, they offload defenses to aurabot, they have more space to invest in MF and culling. And even a single mirror drop already covers all expenses from "but they have to divide loot by 6!".

I've suggested multiple times, use personal loot generation instead of shared, based on every player's own stats, so MF culling won't be a thing. This won't cause increased server load also, because currently there is already absurd volume of items generated, 99.99% of them immediately filtered out. So reduce quantity of item loot per player, increase average modifier tier per item, and give every player their own loot. Then it will indeed be just as solo loot, aside from combat advantage of playing in party, which is another issue that needs balancing.

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Linus1985 wrote:

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Echothesis wrote:

Random fluctuations aside, shared loot generation means that party will always be greater than the sum of their stats. Simple math, they offload defenses to aurabot, they have more space to invest in MF and culling. And even a single mirror drop already covers all expenses from "but they have to divide loot by 6!".

I've suggested multiple times, use personal loot generation instead of shared, based on every player's own stats, so MF culling won't be a thing. This won't cause increased server load also, because currently there is already absurd volume of items generated, 99.99% of them immediately filtered out. So reduce quantity of item loot per player, increase average modifier tier per item, and give every player their own loot. Then it will indeed be just as solo loot, aside from combat advantage of playing in party, which is another issue that needs balancing.

Solo will do way more maps per hour than a group. Geting 10+ divines / hour as solo this league just as any other league.

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Rondoushada wrote:

Nerf t17, not everyone have a good build to farm t17