Improvements to Item Drops

Calling my bank for a refund cuh cuz wtf is this XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD

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0mmr wrote:

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Riverwind77 wrote:

Asking for a refund when you dont like the game anymore is not supporting, is childish trash behaviour.

Im suprised of how oblivious people can be.

Asking for a refund when the seller lied to u abt the product is mandatory.
Looks like ppl that were asking for a refund for new BF were oblivious, yea.

Wrong, the seller didnt lie at all about the product, when you buy a supporter pack you ONLY buy COSMETICS not PATCH NOTES and you're not encouraged to ask for anything else whatsoever.

If the skins/stashes you purchased are fine theres no fucking reason to ask for a refund.

Who the fuck you think you are? get your shit together

even with all that "buffs" its still gonna suck.

Amazing how ppl fuck things up, and think the problem is solved with "buffs"

Just fucking undo all the crap you did.

Simple.

Until then, me and tons of players are off.

Thank you, this is a good start. But please let us know how the current states "buffed" drop rate compares to the old one.

A lot of us, myself included, believe you are using this league to nerf the drops overall, and then improve them slightly, but still keep them at a lower rate than they were before. This is very concerning for a number of reasons.

Please specify how close this "buff" is to simply restoring it to how it used to be.

Do you think people are so dumb that can't do math? If you nerf drops by 80% and now buff that 20% by 25% it's 25%, so still a 75% nerf to drops.

Rarity is useless

Harvest is dead because you removed a ton of useful crafts and deleted a mega step in gear progression

33% more Uniques KEKW

At this point no one cares about the league mechanic

Delete Archnemesis

Lets hope you get a call from your investors to stop destroying up the game

thats very sarcastic chris as always PR BS

If you honestly think nobody sees your anchoring attempts - think again.

NO put the loot BACK to where it was...no compromise...and a % of ZERO is still ZERO

So instead of 10% drops we now have 12.5%? Wow so awesome. Just admit you are wrong and revert the changes already its not that hard.

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Riverwind77 wrote:

Everyone talking about "still a nerf" "90% nerf and 25% buff"

can someone link me where the 90% nerf took place? i dont remember it and i would like to do some math too.

Playtested the patch, unlike most people, and looks fine, a step in the right direction.

After the community realized 'something is off with loot' GGG provided a post called 'What we're working on'.

In there we find the following passage:

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The second reason is that we removed a massive historic bonus to item quantity and/or rarity that applied to some league-specific monsters. We replaced it with a moderate (2-3x) increase to item quantity, to offset the fact that they often have more life than regular monsters and some cannot drop maps.

This states that the former 'historic' buffs were removed and an overall 200-300% quantity instead given.

These 'historic' numbers are not fully known for all mobs, albeit the ranged at around 1000% for many mobs regarding this change. There some lower ones out there and some massively (several thousand %) higher values as well.

This leads to a decrease of 70%-80% of overall drops from league mobs. Hence Alva, Blight (in maps), Legion and so on.

After community testing we found out that alch&go maps have around 50-60% returns in terms of currency from before, not to speak of other things which drop less.

In 'juiced' maps this disparity obviously increases as PoE works on several levels of multipliers working in tandem. There up to 95% decrease in loot were found.

Those are:

Player quantity.
Map quantity.
Mob quantity.

Now if you exchange one of those numbers (in this case mobs) by a substantial amount then the way the amount of loot is given changes in vast amounts. The more you invest the less you return.

So not only are you already getting around half if what you formerly got in raw currency (after this patch) but if you invest into getting more you actually get less now as the price from simple supply for the items related to it is lower then the price of the effective outcome after.