👻3.20👻 Kay's Summoner💥SRS Bomber💀Poison SRS💀Melee SRS🕷️Spiders💀Skeleton Mages

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Genemesis wrote:

I can't tell the difference and don't know which one died!

If it makes you feel better, I can't tell the different either :P

GGG changed the models and they look almost the same now.

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Skykisser83 wrote:

Firstly thanks for the builds.
I'm a newbie to this game and would like to ask if anyone care enough to answer.
If I follow the "Minion Army" build to level up then transit to the "Skeleton Mage" build. Do I need to respec alot of points?
Thanks for your time

You can use the same starting tree (no cluster jewels) for all builds :)

You just need to respec when you start using cluster jewels. If you look at the POB, you can find "Minion Army tree (no clusters)" and then "Level 84 (one cluster)".

You get 20 respec points from the Acts. Should be enough :)

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Cyterizz wrote:

Heya guys. And thanks Kay for the builds, been playing since the fire men since long time ago :)

Im confused with skellie mages x)

On poe.ninja alot of ppl use breathstealer gloves, and many use different auras/gems.

I feel my dmg is kinda low, and my HP is kinda low, my profile is public if anyone would like to help.

Wow! Thank you for using my build since 3.2???

I think the main difference is my build uses skitterbots instead of zealotry?

If you can get Ashes with a good mana reserve mod, then you can use Zealotry instead. It will give more DPS.

Also gem link choice? I see people use Volley, but I think the coverage is bad because it shoots in straight lines. I recommend LMP instead (or AGMP).

You can anoint Breathstealer and it give some interesting buffs when you kill rare monsters. The mods are stuck in one place, so it's not that useful for fast mapping. But it's good for content like Sim because you don't move around too much.

I use Vixens in my builds because double/triple cursing can help a lot for DPS or defense.

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6_din_49 wrote:

Or try Anomalous Feeding Frenzy on support minions?

On my golemancer, I haven't lost a zombie since I got this gem. Lost my elemental immune carrion golems a few times, but support zombies were always full HP in the middle of packs.

I don't think phantasms are that good, because your support minions need to do the killing, or hit a rare/unique. Summoning a bunch of skeletons manually might be a bit more reliable, if the healing is still triggered when replacing the skeletons.

I have Anomalous FF in the build guide, so I think some people still have problems even they use it...? Not sure :\

I'm using phantasms with golems atm and it seems to work well actually. I usually have 11 phantasms all the time.

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kayella wrote:

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loegare wrote:

Re animate guardian, is it safe to use mask of the stitched demon with fleshcrafter? or does that suck off too much hp

Fleshcrafter + Mask will actually make your AG pretty tanky :) Just don't give it extra chaos res.

20% base = 40% life as ES.

My AG has 100k life, so it has 40k ES and 60k life. I also give it 10% ES on body armour. So totaly ES = 50k.

Mask give 1% regen per 500 ES, so my AG has 100% life regen.


*AG in +3 helmet and Minion Life mod.

thanks for the details! turns out im dumb and didnt realize how expensive that hat is, so ill be passing on it for the moment! but is there any way to get POB to give numbers? looking at it apparently my ag will have something like 60k life and 500 es? which just cant be right bc fleshcrafter

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kayella wrote:

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Skykisser83 wrote:

Firstly thanks for the builds.
I'm a newbie to this game and would like to ask if anyone care enough to answer.
If I follow the "Minion Army" build to level up then transit to the "Skeleton Mage" build. Do I need to respec alot of points?
Thanks for your time

You can use the same starting tree (no cluster jewels) for all builds :)

You just need to respec when you start using cluster jewels. If you look at the POB, you can find "Minion Army tree (no clusters)" and then "Level 84 (one cluster)".

You get 20 respec points from the Acts. Should be enough :)

Thank you very much

also i suppose while im here bothering you, what is your opinion on MrsDeath's animate guardian, its got a few differences from yours!

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Animate Guardian: Classic items with some changes.
Kingmaker
Garb of the ephermal
Boots with brittle implicit on them for 4 seconds they move.
Gloves with unnerve implicit or explicit, you can grab 55% chance implicit ones with some resists on them.
Helmet with nearby enemies takes increased elemental damage mode.

Be absolutely sure that your AG is level 20, I pick a "minions gain %5 life on minion death" mastery to make sure our supporting minions survive hard situations, be sure to pick up that mastery too.

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thenommad wrote:

For the Pure Spectres build, are Frost Auto Scouts still a viable option in 3.17, given the build is still centered around cold damage? I'm having a lot of trouble raising Hyrri's Watch spectres.

Yes you can use FAS! The DPS is lower though :( They have 0% crit chance. In my POB Hyrri has 1.2M and FAS has 900k.

Swap Ele Damage, Vicious Proj -> Spell Echo, Controlled Dest.

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loegare wrote:

also i suppose while im here bothering you, what is your opinion on MrsDeath's animate guardian, its got a few differences from yours!

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Animate Guardian: Classic items with some changes.
Kingmaker
Garb of the ephermal
Boots with brittle implicit on them for 4 seconds they move.
Gloves with unnerve implicit or explicit, you can grab 55% chance implicit ones with some resists on them.
Helmet with nearby enemies takes increased elemental damage mode.

Be absolutely sure that your AG is level 20, I pick a "minions gain %5 life on minion death" mastery to make sure our supporting minions survive hard situations, be sure to pick up that mastery too.

Yeah, it's good. DPS focus.

I focus more on survivability so I used bleed immunity gear on my AG because bleed/corrupted blood can kill AG easily (that's why people say don't use AG vs Sirus)

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loegare wrote:

thanks for the details! turns out im dumb and didnt realize how expensive that hat is, so ill be passing on it for the moment! but is there any way to get POB to give numbers? looking at it apparently my ag will have something like 60k life and 500 es? which just cant be right bc fleshcrafter

It's not supported in POB, so you can add this in custom modifiers:

#ES calculation for AG with flesh crafter (20% chaos res)
Minions gain 40% of life as extra maximum energy shield

That will just tell you how much ES, and you need to calculated the rest yourself.