[3.15] Self-Cast Eye of Winter Occultist - Get that Diablo 2 Nostalgia!

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Jepstub wrote:

Im running tier 16 maps with ease. No snakepit, no pierce. a 4 curse setup. Hybrid life/energy and a cloak of defiance.

I dont agree that snakepit is important. Because of the spells ability to go through packs and cast alot of projectiles. I dont think it's worth taking snakepit, because the defensive on that ring is crap.

i got no cluster jewel also.. Its an expensive build for sure. But i've been lucky too.

i've got alot of room for improvement, for when i'll go deep into delve. But this is by far the best setup i've tried with EOW.

Snakepit isn't only important for clearing packs of monsters. Sure a non-chained EoW does plenty fine on it's own, it's just boosted a bit by Snakepit.

What a lot of people seem to not realize is the power that Snakepit has on single target damage when you plant a Hydrosphere on top of the boss and cast through them both. Any shards that don't hit the boss will chain off the Hydrosphere and bounce right back onto the boss, boosting your single target damage by a LOT.

As for defensive stats? It's a ring? Even the two rings you are using only give you Health/ES and Resists. The ring slot isn't exactly a barn burner bundled up with defense. A few HP and getting resists from other gear isn't going to make your break your build defensively. I would think using a shield instead of Dual Wielding Wands would provide a bit more defense then a ring if being more defensive was the goal xD

I was considering going LL or maybe hybrid, still not sure I'm going to need to run some stuff through pob. Crit chance to spells at least and I'm not sure what else yet.

Looking at helmets redeemer looks good with +1 seals with unleash then woke slam it with +1 power charges.

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teknik1200 wrote:

I was considering going LL or maybe hybrid, still not sure I'm going to need to run some stuff through pob. Crit chance to spells at least and I'm not sure what else yet.

Looking at helmets redeemer looks good with +1 seals with unleash then woke slam it with +1 power charges.

It's a good idea in theory, but probably not worth making that helmet.

So yes, the Unleash Seal and an extra Power Charge is obviously a nice DPS boost, but think of what you're giving up to get it...

Both of those are Prefixes, which means you will only get one Energy Shield affix so the helmet will be sort of low ES.

Crown of the Inward Eye will have about the same base ES as the helmet you create, PLUS it gets the bonus to global ES, Mana, and Life (which transforms to some extra ES if you use Chayula amulet).

Also, Crown gives you the Transfigurations, which means you don't have to annoit it on your amulet, leaving your amulet available to annoit something like Assassination or another huge DPS boost node.

I dabbled around with your idea in PoB, and it would actually be a very sleight DPS gain in exchange for a loss of a few hundred ES...all for the low low price of the 70ex+ or whatever a helmet like that would cost, especially needing an EoW enchant on it.

With a helmet like that I'd craft it myself. On the subject of prefixes it's why going hybrid starts to sound nice, a little of each adds together nice.

Buy a base, slam influence and alt slam for the first mod. Then buy another helm with the other mod. It doesn't really matter which mod you alt slam for, pretty sure they both have the same 250 weight. It might take a couple thousand alts but shouldn't be more than a 10ex project. It's the kind of thing you can just dump your tries on the market to recoup at least the cost if you don't like it enough the first time and reroll.

With them both being prefixes you can also go crazy and use reforge suffix and try to hit nearby enemies have negative resistance for the gg helm.

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teknik1200 wrote:

With a helmet like that I'd craft it myself. On the subject of prefixes it's why going hybrid starts to sound nice, a little of each adds together nice.

Buy a base, slam influence and alt slam for the first mod. Then buy another helm with the other mod. It doesn't really matter which mod you alt slam for, pretty sure they both have the same 250 weight. It might take a couple thousand alts but shouldn't be more than a 10ex project. It's the kind of thing you can just dump your tries on the market to recoup at least the cost if you don't like it enough the first time and reroll.

With them both being prefixes you can also go crazy and use reforge suffix and try to hit nearby enemies have negative resistance for the gg helm.

If you go hybrid, then you lose multiple auras/skitterbots, immunity to stun, and pain attunement, so the helmet would end up being an overall loss of dps anyway.

Thanks guys for your feedbacks ; interesting discussions :)

For now I'm just lvl75, doing white maps with rare self found stuff (including a decent corrupted 6link armor 4blue 2green !), 3 labs and still hybrid life/ES.
But I'm happy to see the huge amount of boss damage and love that Diablo Frozen Orb farming gameplay !

Love your build Arkon btw !
Got some noobish questions and would like some explanations on various things though :
I guess Portal is just an habit, wouldn't it be better to use a second wind, though ? Convenient additional charge, increased mana cost for higher arcane surge. Or a little golem maybe ?
Your thought on Increased AOE support for the Hydrosphere ? Is it that usefull, wouldn't Bonechill be better there ?
Or maybe moving one of those setups to 3link and use the 4link for a better CWDT setup ?
Prism Guardian sets you to permanent low life which triggers the Pain Attunement 30% more spell dmg, right ?
Finally.. Why using Skitterbot ? I've seen it in various builds, but don't really see the point. Especially with a build that already chills everything anyway.

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fistoz wrote:

Thanks guys for your feedbacks ; interesting discussions :)

For now I'm just lvl75, doing white maps with rare self found stuff (including a decent corrupted 6link armor 4blue 2green !), 3 labs and still hybrid life/ES.
But I'm happy to see the huge amount of boss damage and love that Diablo Frozen Orb farming gameplay !

Love your build Arkon btw !
Got some noobish questions and would like some explanations on various things though :
I guess Portal is just an habit, wouldn't it be better to use a second wind, though ? Convenient additional charge, increased mana cost for higher arcane surge. Or a little golem maybe ?
Your thought on Increased AOE support for the Hydrosphere ? Is it that usefull, wouldn't Bonechill be better there ?
Or maybe moving one of those setups to 3link and use the 4link for a better CWDT setup ?
Prism Guardian sets you to permanent low life which triggers the Pain Attunement 30% more spell dmg, right ?
Finally.. Why using Skitterbot ? I've seen it in various builds, but don't really see the point. Especially with a build that already chills everything anyway.

Portal - Yes, it's a habit. I hate using scrolls so pretty much always find a way to use Portal Gem.

Second Wind - It was nerfed into the ground and doesn't do anything for Flame Dash anymore really. The +1 charge is marginally useful. You could certainly do that instead of Portal Gem if you'd like, it wouldn't hurt.

Hydrosphere - Yes the Inc AoE is great on Hydrosphere, plus if you look at my Skitterbots, they're supported by Bonechill. Hydrosphere has a few uses. First, it is there to apply my second curse, Elemental Weakness, and the Cold Exposure debuff when I need the extra juice besides just clearing trash mobs. Second, Hydrosphere is a fantastic damage boost against bosses. Not because of it's own damage, but because with a Snakepit ring, the Hydrosphere will chain back any projectiles that didn't hit the boss, adding a lot of single target damage. And third, which to be honest I stumbled into very lucky with it...Hydrosphere is amazing for the new league mechanics. You just drop it on top of the bomb area that is about to explode and the entire pack of monsters are immediately frozen in place and then you can just blast away.

CWDT - Now uses mana on procs so you have to be careful about that. My EoW uses 94 mana, and I have 244 available with about 150 mana regen/sec. I can spam cast pretty much no problem because eventually you have to stop and move no matter what. I really don't think adding something else to CWDT would really be all that helpful.

Prism Guardian - Yep. Using Hatred, Zealotry, and Discipline while also being specced into the nodes for 'Influence' reserves 96% of my HP, putting me into LL.

Skitterbots - It was kinda answered above but I'll expand on it. Not only are they a permanent source of an aura'd chill attatched with Bonechill for huge bonus damage, but the other bot also shocks for a bonus 15% damage taken. Skitterbots with Bonechill is one of the biggest sources of bonus damage on my entire build.

I see.. Quick answer, ty !

Yeah I wasn't questioning Hydrosphere which is awesome (even in a pure fire build xD Double Molten Strike proc !) but the importance of AOE increase rather than some other support.
Maybe it helps catching more non-hitting projectiles to redirect them to the boss.. gotta try it to make my own opinion anyway ^^

How does the Skitterbot chill aura works towards other chill sources btw ? If I freeze mobs with Hydrosphere/EoW first, Bonechill won't be applied, right ?

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fistoz wrote:

I see.. Quick answer, ty !

Yeah I wasn't questioning Hydrosphere which is awesome (even in a pure fire build xD Double Molten Strike proc !) but the importance of AOE increase rather than some other support.
Maybe it helps catching more non-hitting projectiles to redirect them to the boss.. gotta try it to make my own opinion anyway ^^

How does the Skitterbot chill aura works towards other chill sources btw ? If I freeze mobs with Hydrosphere/EoW first, Bonechill won't be applied, right ?

From my understanding, and I could be wrong here but I'm pretty sure about it...the aura and Bonechill still applies.

Let's say that your EoW freezes an enemy that Skitterbots are near, I'm pretty sure that both the freeze, and the aura are layered onto the monster, but since the Freeze is the stronger ailment, it's effects apply but the chill aura is still 'on' the enemy.

Even if I'm wrong about that, it doesn't matter much. If an enemy is frozen, great they are doing nothing anyway. And also, you don't really need the giga damage of Skitterbots/Bonechill for clearing trash. It's there more for the bosses.

Ehh, mistake.. I meant if I chill* mobs with other an source first, not freeze as indeed in this case it doesn't matter ^^

Well, gotta level, gather currency and get some enlighten 4 for now !