(3.16) NERFED DO NOT PLAY THIS Raider Archmage BF/BB [CHEAP, Tanky, HCSSF viable, (100m+ dps)

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konean wrote:
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dangb wrote:
I am about to quit this build, at least temporarily.

As my first character, I am having a super hard time following the build, specially trying to get through the campaign on my own. The lightning trap is not cutting it anymore.

I believe I will have to follow a more detailed build for now and then maybe I'll come back to this.


You are asking for a more detailed guide but you are still not following this one. Your faster casting is not linked (important for bladefall), your Arcane Cloake needs to be a four link. On top your flasks are a mess for reaching maps.


That's the thing. Maybe it's just me, but I'm finding it hard to follow. I haven't played this game in years, so consider myself a total noob.

So, at level 35, should I switch to Bladefall already as my primary skill? Should I stop using Lightning Trap?

I am also not sure what type of gear to equip.
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dangb wrote:
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konean wrote:
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dangb wrote:
I am about to quit this build, at least temporarily.

As my first character, I am having a super hard time following the build, specially trying to get through the campaign on my own. The lightning trap is not cutting it anymore.

I believe I will have to follow a more detailed build for now and then maybe I'll come back to this.


You are asking for a more detailed guide but you are still not following this one. Your faster casting is not linked (important for bladefall), your Arcane Cloake needs to be a four link. On top your flasks are a mess for reaching maps.


That's the thing. Maybe it's just me, but I'm finding it hard to follow. I haven't played this game in years, so consider myself a total noob.

So, at level 35, should I switch to Bladefall already as my primary skill? Should I stop using Lightning Trap?

I am also not sure what type of gear to equip.


Dunno man, i find this guide to be one of the more detailed ones, some guides dont even have a levelling section. Did you read through the "Notes" Section in Path of Building?
The whole guide is just weirdly worded and a lot of things are not explained properly.

It says we should not have arcane cloak on lmb but then where the hell would you put it, unless you want to use ctrl also.

You have so many things to look after, BFBB, Sigil, Conductivity, Arcane cloak, General's cry or what ever fortify you have, the build is horribly clunky and really tedious to play, this is the least fun build i have played in my 1.4k hours in the game.

Farming enough currency to respec and get starting gear is hard to do when you have no dmg and survivability.

Imo the build is not worth the hassle and there are much easier and stronger builds around.
Last edited by Bl4ckExe on Apr 19, 2021, 11:57:37 AM
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Bl4ckExe wrote:

It says we should not have arcane cloak on lmb but then where the hell would you put it, unless you want to use ctrl also.

You can rebind the keys on the second bar to be accessible without control, btw. Personally, I rebound ctrl+Q and ctrol+W to Y and U.
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Ravennnnnn wrote:
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Bl4ckExe wrote:

It says we should not have arcane cloak on lmb but then where the hell would you put it, unless you want to use ctrl also.

You can rebind the keys on the second bar to be accessible without control, btw. Personally, I rebound ctrl+Q and ctrol+W to Y and U.



I did not know that, it helps but does not change the fact that you have this many skills you need to use to not die.
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sinhviencodon wrote:
What is the main source of mana regen? I'm at lv 72 with 3k mana and I'm running out of mana most of the time (haven't picked up Agnostic yet), I have to rely on my mana flasks a lot.


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Last edited by OminousDarkness on Apr 19, 2021, 12:16:49 PM
very good build except against ultimatum, i die often
here's my pob : https://pastebin.com/EmS91gC4
I have serious mana issues on bosses, any idea how to fix that? i have pretty good gear, mana regen on every single item etc
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Bl4ckExe wrote:
The whole guide is just weirdly worded and a lot of things are not explained properly.

It says we should not have arcane cloak on lmb but then where the hell would you put it, unless you want to use ctrl also.

You have so many things to look after, BFBB, Sigil, Conductivity, Arcane cloak, General's cry or what ever fortify you have, the build is horribly clunky and really tedious to play, this is the least fun build i have played in my 1.4k hours in the game.

Farming enough currency to respec and get starting gear is hard to do when you have no dmg and survivability.

Imo the build is not worth the hassle and there are much easier and stronger builds around.


BF/BB playstyle is clunky whatever build you're gonna play, still if you check poeninja, Blade Blast is the # 1 main skill in ultimatum softcore.
of course it's not a zoom zoom build.
I agree that you have way too many keybinds to keep, but as I said, if you're not playing in hardcore you can ditch some annoying setup (like the vigil, which has been nerfed anyway), put conductivity on arcanist brand/orb of storms setup, or cwdt + conductivity/tempest shield, and cast sigil of power only for static fights or tougher bosses.
Build gets better and better o.o 6 Linked closk today and crafted a decent conductivity Ring.. can also sustain rf now.. oh boy rf rampes our dmg so much, love it..

I have a question.. you suggested a shield for Ultimatum yesterday.. just dropped a replica mistwall and on paper it looks really nice.. is it? And i wanted to ask if we use awakened spell echo later

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