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Just finished wave 30 of the Simulacrum, having 5 portals left. Want to share some feedback about the build.

1) Minion's survivability is more than enough to outlive monsters on any waves with any amounts of pen / extra dmg. Life recovery on death is way too strong. I'm going to try to remove medium survivability Cluster at all.
2) Omniphobia is much more deadly than Kosis. It's pretty easy to dodge all skills of the latter, while Omniphobia may just do a 180 flick with his Cleave in a fraction of a second (minion AS is always high in the late waves), one-shotting you.
3) Stun immunity is absolutely necessary. You live while you move - you can't move during stun recovery from block. And you block a lot on 25+.
4) Quartz Flask with "Use when the effect finishes" is absolutely necessary. Same reason as above.
5) Chill and Freeze immunity on your boots will save you quite a few portals.
6) EHP of a character like mine is high enough to make deathless Simulacrums, unless you do a lot of mistakes.
7) Damage feels a bit low - it may take 10 seconds to kill a Rare monster on wave 30 with certain mods.
8) Double bosses are not a problem - your minions taunt both anyways. You just have to dodge a bit more. Should be fixed by taking a 12-passives Cluster and Awakened Multi.
9) The worst possible mods are - Minion Life, Cold Res (both affect our damage significantly) and phys as extra chaos - a single hit can kill you due to low chaos res. Other bad options include Less effect of Curses (cuts our damage quite hard), all types of pen.
Last edited by Its_OP on Nov 25, 2021, 10:05:57 AM
I'm a little confused about the gem setup. In the 3.16 POBs you have raise spectre in helm and carrion golem in body for medium budget but on the guide its the opposite, which should I do? I'm not sure what colors to get on skin of the lords.

Also, I noticed you use empower on your carrion golems, should I switch to that instead of the hypothermia setup?
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Its_OP wrote:
Just finished wave 30 of the Simulacrum, having 5 portals left. Want to share some feedback about the build.

1) Minion's survivability is more than enough to outlive monsters on any waves with any amounts of pen / extra dmg. Life recovery on death is way too strong. I'm going to try to remove medium survivability Cluster at all.
2) Omniphobia is much more deadly than Kosis. It's pretty easy to dodge all skills of the latter, while Omniphobia may just do a 180 flick with his Cleave in a fraction of a second (minion AS is always high in the late waves), one-shotting you.
3) Stun immunity is absolutely necessary. You live while you move - you can't move during stun recovery from block. And you block a lot on 25+.
4) Quartz Flask with "Use when the effect finishes" is absolutely necessary. Same reason as above.
5) Chill and Freeze immunity on your boots will save you quite a few portals.
6) EHP of a character like mine is high enough to make deathless Simulacrums, unless you do a lot of mistakes.
7) Damage feels a bit low - it may take 10 seconds to kill a Rare monster on wave 30 with certain mods.
8) Double bosses are not a problem - your minions taunt both anyways. You just have to dodge a bit more. Should be fixed by taking a 12-passives Cluster and Awakened Multi.
9) The worst possible mods are - Minion Life, Cold Res (both affect our damage significantly) and phys as extra chaos - a single hit can kill you due to low chaos res. Other bad options include Less effect of Curses (cuts our damage quite hard), all types of pen.


Sums it up pretty well.
Later waves in Sims are all about clearing up trash and then trying to do the double boss waves cleanly while dodging Omnophobia.

As you've said, Kosis won't kill you. He just stands afk and gets taunted. He's very tanky though.

Omniphobia does a shockwave, a slam and a leapslam at random intervals that oneshots you. To take him down you simply want to have him taunted and run circles around him if possible.
Is hydropsphere mandatory for simulacrum wave 30? Last time I got 1shot by something on wave 25 and couldnt really get back in without insta dying as there was 100 mobs at the entrance insta killing me. But that was a while back and I ran that simulacrum with flesh offering and Magna eclipsis. Gunna try Simulacrum again soon with bone offering instead and more chaos res. Am almost chaos resist capped with my flask up.
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xNinjakiller wrote:
I'm a little confused about the gem setup. In the 3.16 POBs you have raise spectre in helm and carrion golem in body for medium budget but on the guide its the opposite, which should I do? I'm not sure what colors to get on skin of the lords.

Also, I noticed you use empower on your carrion golems, should I switch to that instead of the hypothermia setup?


The guide was written for 3.13 Ritual to 3.15 Expedition when Skin of the Lords only have +1 and Awakened Minion dmg didn't give +1.

When running lower budget versions of the build, meaning no (8-link helms or higher) Golems in chest is the best way to run.

Follow the 3.16 PoBs, disregard everything written before 3.16.

Empower is better than Hypothermia if you can get it. Just requires far more investment.
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Is hydropsphere mandatory for simulacrum wave 30? Last time I got 1shot by something on wave 25 and couldnt really get back in without insta dying as there was 100 mobs at the entrance insta killing me. But that was a while back and I ran that simulacrum with flesh offering and Magna eclipsis. Gunna try Simulacrum again soon with bone offering instead and more chaos res. Am almost chaos resist capped with my flask up.


It's not necessary.
When I ran simulacrums it was before we discovered the Hydrosphere stuff.

I had -52% chaos res aswell, I don't see why ppl say Chaos dmg is a problem there. The biggest problem in Sims are phys damage from Omniphobia and Kosis since their boss attacks literally oneshot you through 40k armour. They can be "easily" dodged though if you're quick on your feet.
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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xNinjakiller wrote:
I'm a little confused about the gem setup. In the 3.16 POBs you have raise spectre in helm and carrion golem in body for medium budget but on the guide its the opposite, which should I do? I'm not sure what colors to get on skin of the lords.

Also, I noticed you use empower on your carrion golems, should I switch to that instead of the hypothermia setup?


The guide was written for 3.13 Ritual to 3.15 Expedition when Skin of the Lords only have +1 and Awakened Minion dmg didn't give +1.

When running lower budget versions of the build, meaning no (8-link helms or higher) Golems in chest is the best way to run.

Follow the 3.16 PoBs, disregard everything written before 3.16.

Empower is better than Hypothermia if you can get it. Just requires far more investment.


Okay, thank you. So with the empower setup should I use EDWA or Melee splash like your setup? And after getting the 8 link helm would I drop empower?
Last edited by xNinjakiller on Nov 25, 2021, 11:26:53 AM
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I have ~14 Ex what should be my next upgrade? Go all in and craft a +7 helmet?
Or better first go for a 4th aura? I still have a problem surviving, like almost every league I am stuck at level 93
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xNinjakiller wrote:
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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xNinjakiller wrote:
I'm a little confused about the gem setup. In the 3.16 POBs you have raise spectre in helm and carrion golem in body for medium budget but on the guide its the opposite, which should I do? I'm not sure what colors to get on skin of the lords.

Also, I noticed you use empower on your carrion golems, should I switch to that instead of the hypothermia setup?


The guide was written for 3.13 Ritual to 3.15 Expedition when Skin of the Lords only have +1 and Awakened Minion dmg didn't give +1.

When running lower budget versions of the build, meaning no (8-link helms or higher) Golems in chest is the best way to run.

Follow the 3.16 PoBs, disregard everything written before 3.16.

Empower is better than Hypothermia if you can get it. Just requires far more investment.


Okay, thank you. So with the empower setup should I use EDWA or Melee splash like your setup? And after getting the 8 link helm would I drop empower?


Melee splash if you can fit Hydrosphere. Otherwise EDWA is better for single target and splash for AoE pretty much.

With Hydrosphere in, it's the best for both AoE and single target thoguh. Only problem with Hydrosphere is that we want to run Avatar of Fire with it. And we lose a socket and we're incredibly gem starved already.
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Knuddelbearli wrote:
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I have ~14 Ex what should be my next upgrade? Go all in and craft a +7 helmet?
Or better first go for a 4th aura? I still have a problem surviving, like almost every league I am stuck at level 93


I would probably go for safe and reliable upgrades first.
When I started going for upgrades costing exalted orbs rather than Chaos I went for:

+2 Wand -> Auls Ammulet -> Helm

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