[3.21] Cold Conversion Summoner | Build guides for all budgets | (Ghazzy Zoomancer)

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Deadandlivin wrote:
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Melonmonkey wrote:
IF we're switching carrion golems to our chest can we still run SO/phantasm in our helms? And if so, with what 2 support gems (hypothermia and minion damage on the helm)?


You can check my character or any of the new PoBs on the front page.

Short answer though, yes, you move Phantasms and SO to helm.

For clear you run:
Spectre - Phantasm - GMP

The last socket depends on what you got going.
If you don't have Elemental Equilibrium in your build, you will need exposure and can run either Elemental Army or Awakened Cold Penetration on lvl5.

If you have EE on your chest Hypothermia (+3 Helm with Minion dmg) is best.

If you have a 7-link helm your dps will be looking good and you want to run Faster Projectiles support.

So basically:

- No EE: GMP + Awk Cold Pen/Elemental Army
- EE but 6-link: GMP + Predator
- EE + 7-link: GMP + Faster Proj

For single target you will run:
2b-2g: Awk Cold Pen + Hypothermia
3b-1g: Predator + Hypothermia
BiS: Predator + Awakened Elemental Focus

If you're running a cheap 6-link helm with +3 and minion dmg I suggest running 3blue and 1 green. It's the most flexible balance between bossing and clear.

Here you simply will run:
Clear: GMP + Elemental Army
Single target: Predator + Hypothermia

If you have a 7-link helm i HIGHLY urge you to get 2 white sockets from Vorici turning it 2blue and 2 white.
This allows you to run both the BiS clear and single target setups.



Removed faster proj in helm and added awakened cold pen. ended up on wave 23, and alot faster clearing. So it boost my DPS, sim now are crazy anyway :)
Made a new video of me doing a Sirus and Conqueror rotation.
Dps is getting up there :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CfzyuqjfbQM&ab_channel=HenrikSwanstr%C3%B6m

Still have loads of room for upgrades.
Someone also finished the mirror budget double maven elevated minion helmet today so if you're rich you should get the helmet if you can while mirrors only are 170 ex.

Unfortunately, the helm has skeleton dmg enchant (eew).
Atleast you can tell the crafter to craft 70 life instead of +1 skeletons.
Last edited by Deadandlivin on Nov 14, 2021, 2:07:51 PM
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So I recently changed my my build to your latest PoB for medium budget no cluster from the clayshaper version and I just fought A8 veritania. She decided mid fight I didnt need any minions. So point is my minions aren't surviving anything and also wanted to point out the change that was made to "Trigger socketed spell when you use a skill" having an 8 second cool down automatically so BV cant be up indefinitely anymore. Also the Veritania fight was a non-alc'd map. I could really use some help here for minion survivability.


Veritania is very hard without gear and you need to invest alot into minion survival for them to make it out alive.

What they are dying to is the shotgunning from the ice projectile circle thing she does. She spawns ~20ish whirlwind looking things from the middle of her body and your minions tank all of them at the same time and get oneshot. When she starts channeling it you have to convocate them away from her.

That being said, I also had trouble with her early on, even when convocating because the minions just ran back into her and tanked 7 projectiles at the same time.

The easiest solution is to simply remove some of your skill points nad put them into minion survival things and run Bone Offering vs her. If you get Decay Ward and the 1% leech node so your minions actually can sustain themselves I think they will be fine.
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Deadandlivin wrote:

Someone also finished the mirror budget double maven elevated minion helmet today so if you're rich you should get the helmet if you can while mirrors only are 170 ex.

Unfortunately, the helm has skeleton dmg enchant (eew).
Atleast you can tell the crafter to craft 70 life instead of +1 skeletons.


Someone is one of the TFT founders. He has the whole mirror-shop out there. I suppose, you can get the right enchantment on it for some additional payment.
Dead,

For a 2r/2b/2g chest what are the best gems to run for Spectres?
with the 4 specs that we've got - what are we running? 2 SO's, 1 crushclaw and? or is there something else entirely?
I run 2 SO and 2 crushclaw in 3G 3B which is less than optimal but it does quite well.

On the first page Dead has put a huge number of POB for running with SO and for running with crushclaw depending on your budget.

Edit: I think Specs have been put into helm and golems into chest now...dont know if the POB refelct that....but I have left mine in the original pieces for the time being.
Last edited by Swaggmann on Nov 14, 2021, 5:29:12 PM
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Deadandlivin wrote:
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imilenin wrote:
Hello @Deadandlivin and all you here

Thanks again for the discussion here, helped me a lot.

I currently run the crab version and I am stack somewhere between low and medium budget versions. The issue is that I have no currency for any important gear upgrades.

I tried to do various things this league (bosses, guards, mapping, heist, blight/uber blight, lookbooks) and the build feels fine.

The only issue is that there is no profitable thing I can do consistently (for example - I can kill all the guards relatively easy but sometimes I just insta die 6 times to minotaur and so on)

Can't find any way to farm currency for gear which is worth 10+ ex due to that.

Am I missing some cheaper upgrades/better things to farm or maybe you have other solutions?



I personally don't touch bossing too much until I feel that my dps is high enough where I can just oneshot the guardians. Not worth the headache to die to random Minotaur diglet attacks or Hydra balls when you try to slalom like some skating pro. I personally just save all my guardian maps and once I'm comfortable, I run all of them in a day when my dps is high enough to kill them before they do any abilities.

As for making money, yeah this is a poverty league for sure.
There are very good strategies for farming though. Expedition farming in Lira Arthain seems to be really good.

What you gotta do is just choose one thing to farm and comitt to it. For example, if you're gonna test expedition in Lira Arthain. Set yourself up to do 100 maps and just do them. Once done, do all the logbooks you got.
Then run Exilence Next on your stash tabs afterwards and see how much money you made.

I've primarily been delving and Heisting for money this league because I like the alch and go feel of it early game.
I decided to run every single contract I had, just finishing them up tonight.
After that I'm gonna half a million rogue markers and over 300 blueprint reveals and run blueprints a whole day.

I made 30 ex from doing 200 contracts.
Think I will get alot from the blueprints too.



Thanks a lot for the advice, tried the expedition thing and farmed around 30+ ex ina few days to get Aul's, 7-link helm and wand. What should I go for next? Endgame shield, clusters, awakened gems or smth else?
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Thanks a lot for the advice, tried the expedition thing and farmed around 30+ ex ina few days to get Aul's, 7-link helm and wand. What should I go for next? Endgame shield, clusters, awakened gems or smth else?


Good job! :)

You're still using Golems in Helm and Spectres in chest.
Maybe you've missed it but it's more optimal to swap the minions around.
There are new PoBs where you can check this out. The +2 from Skin with +1 From Awakened Minion dmg basically turns the skin into a 6-link with a +3 which is better than the helm. I kinda forgot how impactful it was.

If I were you I would try to get my hands on a new Skin of the Lords with Elemental Equilibrium. You should want to look for one with 3 red, 2 blue and any other free color.

3b-3r or 4r-2b are the best colors. I don't know what the prices are but talked to someone earlier today who bought a 4r-2b one for 1 ex.

Once you've got your chest acquired I would focus on upgrading ALL gems you have. You want to get all Awakened Gems (Except for Multistrike), all alternate quality gems (Except for Divergent Skitterbots which is 4 ex) and get the quality up on all of it.

Gems are permanent upgrades that you will have the rest of the league. They're irreplaceable and a permanent boost in power so you want to get them early on.
Awakened Gems are a huge source of Power, especially Awakened Melee Phys which you're missing right now.
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Skyhigh87 wrote:
with the 4 specs that we've got - what are we running? 2 SO's, 1 crushclaw and? or is there something else entirely?


I'm running 3 SOs and 1 Crab right now.

Hard to say which setup is the strongest but I find the 3 SOs extremely good at instantly getting all 11 phantasms up in seconds.

Helps alot vs long bossfights with phases like Sirus.
I'm currently using x2 15 ex items and most awakened gems and currently kill Sirus in ~7 seconds.

In my latest video you can see how fast the SOs raise all the phantasms and how fast Sirus melts after that.

I know alot of people are disregarding the Phantasms and don't really understand the strength of them.

Currently in my build, my Carrion Golems stand for ~50% of my total dmg output. The phantasms are responsible for ~30%.
It's quite unfortunate, but the spectres are mainly there for support.
My 3 SOs are literally outdpsed by my x9 unlinked Zombies which is pathetic.
Their damage is enough to clear trash mobs in maps though which is one of their primary function while clearing.

During single target, their job is to spawn phantasms and no other spectre comes close at spawning them at this rate.

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