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[3.14] Dejuvenate's Flameslinger Elementalist. Best League starter and unethical clear speed

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Amnexty wrote:
Hi there,

A few questions that are left unanswered for me:

- Exposure don't stack, why using Wave of Conviction in addition to the Archdaemon helmet base then ?

- Primordial Chain seems often used, is the speed boost to golem worth it, or is it just to get extra copies of golem to apply EE reliablier ? Doesn't seems worth the slot imo.

Thank you guys.


I think the Exposure from passive sources like the helm is -10%. Exposure from Wave of Conviction is -25%, and it will override the lower one when you apply the skill. If you can reliably apply Wave of Conviction (trigger spell wand) with high uptime then I don't think the helmet is necessary. If you have low uptime of Wave of Conviction then the Exposure with lower value from the helmet is nice to have when Wave of Conviction is not applied.

I personally don't like Primordial Chain, but people use it to get up to 4 more golems (+3 from amulet, +1 from Anima Stone with 2 Primordial jewels). Elementalist ascendancy points give 50% increased effect of golem buff per golem, so with 4 more you get 200% increased effect of golem. I prefer influenced amulet and use it myself, but Primordial Chain is a much cheaper option to get some damage and survivability boost.

Last edited by Magillanica on Feb 4, 2021, 4:24:12 PM
Hi All,

I am loving the build but am having difficulty staying alive at higher tiers. I was hoping I could get some feedback from the Forum Guru's.

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Any suggestions or input would be very much appreciated!


Also question, with EE and WoC:

Would I want "+# Lightning Damage to attacks" to trigger with Kinetic Blast? Or should I be adding "+# Lightning Damage to Spells"? Additionally would stacking just Lightning be best or could I add Cold?
500+ Hours in game. Still don't know what I'm doing.
Last edited by Mahogany on Feb 4, 2021, 5:44:38 PM
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So I hit 98 level today and put my ehp to the test at sirus
Ate big beams, small beams, spinning beams and even maze. (A5 sirus to be fair, so not his most dangerous form yet)

Fight was also super quick, i'm now sure that i do not need more dps.
I do realize A8 version will have little more punch to him, but can not test it yet because i lack some watchstones.
Spoiler

I'd just recommend to swap to chaos resistance rings at him, which really shows because maze does up to 30k damage, and get amethys flask if u can not cap the resistance with your gear.
and 25% of it is chaos so with -75% resist to chaos that is 13k damage that bypasses your shield. With maxed resist it is just 1800, so you can see how that is little more bearable.

Now i became a lot more confident in bossing capability of this build when build for EHP.

I also tried to tank the big whirls of dark energy that are in whole city, but had to flame dash out of them quite quickly, it had some serious dps.


Drop were gloves which i ruined on first vaal in to rare :D


Can not say how hard maven fight is, it will take me a while to get to that but I will likely fail it because i've heard it involves color-coded puzzle and i m colorblind.
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I can't figure out how important is RF or how much it actually does to clear / bosses.

The probem I am having is that, for RF, I can't have ES. So I spent 4 passives to take EB and reserve 100% mana (with aspects)
To do so, I have a helmet that helps me sustain RF with 1 single golem
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The alternative is to drop RF, drop EB and get back the 4 passives. I would also get some nice chaos rez that might bring me to 0 or positive (currently, -48) Drop aspects (or maybe fit it in with an Enlighten gem) and instead take this helm
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I'm just not sure how powerful the KB enchant is and what provides a better combination. PoB didn't help much tho.

Suggestions?
Last edited by Cry0nicS on Feb 4, 2021, 6:55:46 PM
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Cry0nicS wrote:
I can't figure out how important is RF or how much it actually does to clear / bosses.

The probem I am having is that, for RF, I can't have ES. So I spent 4 passives to take EB and reserve 100% mana (with aspects)
To do so, I have a helmet that helps me sustain RF with 1 single golem
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The alternative is to drop RF, drop EB and get back the 4 passives. I would also get some nice chaos rez that might bring me to 0 or positive (currently, -48) Drop aspects (or maybe fit it in with an Enlighten gem) and instead take this helm
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I'm just not sure how powerful the KB enchant is and what provides a better combination. PoB didn't help much tho.

Suggestions?

To the main question: KB enchant is amazing it means longer cover of screen which is never bad thing, especially with woke chain sup. But not really go-to in this build AND i hate that it is 75% instead of 100%, i love more consistent things. It is also why i avoid evasion.

Maybe you should not listen to me because of my dedication to chase ehp instead of dps, but i would just forget RF mainly because it takes away your life regen and shield, i think it even takes bastion of element shield but do not quote me on that last one as i did not try.

Spoiler
If you regen 1k and degen 1k then u regen nothing and to lose 1k regen is huge. Do malevolence aura instead of RF if you insist on more dps.

You could always just use vaal rf to get short boost at boss, which is not worth it either tbh.

What content exactly do you run that is much easier with 4mil dot compared to 3mil+quality of life+ehp? if your answer is "well that one boss once per year maybe" there is no much reason to go for anything that will compromise your defense.

Because sure, you can drop around 4500 life from this build, damage reduction, regen and get 70% more damage but killing map content in 0.1 second instead of 0.12 is not any difference. And if you like to actually being able to get hit once or twice at boss without getting deathscreen, chasing every possible dmg multiplier migh not be for you.




tl;dr So i recommend malevolence, no rf. And even without both the difference just is not there in solo play, because everything dies so quick even if u had just 1mil dot. In party there is argument for more dps because bosses get much more hp.
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Last edited by CAKE on Feb 4, 2021, 7:25:57 PM
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Thanks!

To get Malevolance I need to drop Ash, Precision and aspects of spider. Not sure if it's worth it.

I guess I'll will drop the huge regen from first help to get KB enchant + some chaos rez + -9 fire rez instead.
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Cry0nicS wrote:

Thanks!

To get Malevolance I need to drop Ash, Precision and aspects of spider. Not sure if it's worth it.

I guess I'll will drop the huge regen from first help to get KB enchant + some chaos rez + -9 fire rez instead.


I like the stone golem one much better when it comes to buff.
the -9 fire res are nothing for our dps. do you know what nearby is? it is 25units, that is like right next to you and there are bosses that have body big enough to take more space than nearby.

It is not quite my playstyle to stand on top of the boss which i consider red zone for non leech builds, but ofcourse if you do it that will work well. It is something I would do myself only with cyclone and similar melee builds tho.


On other side, i like chaos res on the other helm.

Made picture for u of 25, i'm not sure if the second skeleton does count as in range or not tbh. I'd guess not.
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Last edited by CAKE on Feb 4, 2021, 8:03:44 PM
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TiltedSpade wrote:
Thanks a ton for the write up. I appreciate the help. Regarding the gloves and shield comments - I’m currently trying to remove add life on the shield and remove add fire for the hunter mod you mentioned. I’m like 0
for 8 so far and supply is low on console. I’ll definitely take your other advice!


Dude stop. There's a much easier way.

Your gloves have an open suffix. There are a total of 2 fire suffixes possible on those gloves. 1) Fire res 2) fire damage over time.
All you have to do on your gloves is harvest aug fire and you get guaranteed fire damage over time.

Your shield has no open affixes and your only life affix is a suffix. That means remove/add life has a 100% chance to remove the life regen suffix, leaving you with one open affix, so your add life can only be a suffix. That will result in adding flat life regen 5/6 of the time and % life regen 1/6 of the time.
If you want life on your shield, you need to open a prefix with remove defense to remove the increased energy shield. At that point you might as well just bench craft 70 life and be done.
https://youtu.be/citbXSU7ST8

This is how this build performs when you are half asleep in map that you ran like 3 times in your life.
Do not post it on main page just because It belongs more in to hall of shame than something to represent potential of this build.
My computer is really weak so when i record it is barely playable. That is also why the graphics drop to minecraft style at few points.

I may do some boss fight videos too, depending on my mood.

I actually already have some but they are super boring, for example elder fight.
Pretty much any build can do elder, even aurabots :D so it is just me standing in middle of map shooting up and down.

I feel pretty, Oh, so pretty,
I feel pretty, and witty and gay,
And I pity Any girl who isn’t me today!
Recently made my third character of the league and went with flameslinger, I like your posts cake and your character is min/maxed to hell and back.

Looking to ask some questions about the build.

1: What sort of boss damage can you expect from the build once all the pieces come together and what is the piece that makes everything melt? just all the clusters?

2: Have you considered using a Maxarius timeless jewel over Doryani? with just the armor you are wearing and some physical taken to element conversion it might be a bigger defensive boost then some ES, it's what I plan to do when I can get out of a tabula.

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