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As for Chaos conversion = it is worth in some cases, because minions would be immune to reflect. But you need withering touch as well
But Withering Touch only applies to attacks as far as I can see. So I think I could only use it together with the melee spectres.
Anyway, of course a build with full chaos conversion wouldn't be a budget build anymore...
Usually you use melee spectres to stack wither
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Posted byAngry_Roleplayeron Jun 3, 2020, 4:38:52 AM
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guys domeone can explain how to get 4th spectre here?
+1 from node, so thats all if i without boots? or where i can get an more?
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Posted bySummy111on Jun 3, 2020, 5:22:02 PMBanned
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oh i found empower my bad sorries
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Posted bySummy111on Jun 3, 2020, 5:23:24 PMBanned
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may i know why controlled destruction?)
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Posted bySummy111on Jun 4, 2020, 3:41:35 PMBanned
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Converting from pure phys to ele is not very good for minions, unless you are converting to full chaos.
That seems wrong. The highest possible dps builds on Skellies, Zombies, Carrion Golem and even Blink Arrow & Mirror Arrow are cold conversion builds.
The same is true for Soulwrest Phantasms.
Triad Grip is 54% more damage for this Phantasm build (Council only 19%): https://pastebin.com/9xE41sL1
and the build reaches 500k+ dps per Phantasms with just 1 gem swap. I played a version of this build on Guardian this league with standalone Phantasms and took everything down - 20/20 Simulacrum, t16 100%, Sirus A8, Uber Elder.
Phantasms with Clusters are in a good spot now where you don't necessarily need to fit in Skeletons or DPS-Spectres anymore.
Chaos is still better, cause you can get a shitton more with wither and other things.
As for Phantasms damage... with all the juice like EE, aul and saqawal there is indeed way more damage. My build is supposed to be WAY more budget though.
Rly? I ve tried Chaos a few times in pob and it never seemed worth it.
Hatred was just way to stupid, with extra Damage from Bonechill + Skitterbots and access to alot more curses and better Gem Links.
I have yet to find a way to match that with chaos conversion.
Edit: I just don't see it, especially with clusters. Full cold conversion with EE can make use of Hatred + Vengeful Commander (~10% more damage) and Raze and Pillage (~8% more damage).
With all kind of chaos reduction nonsense and 15 Wither stacks I can't even get close to the same damage. Thats with Hatred + Zealotry on top.
Maybe I missed something. Do you have a pob?
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Posted byPrevyon Jun 5, 2020, 4:24:13 AM
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Rly? I ve tried Chaos a few times in pob and it never seemed worth it.
Hatred was just way to stupid, with extra Damage from Bonechill + Skitterbots and access to alot more curses and better Gem Links.
I have yet to find a way to match that with chaos conversion. Maybe I missed something. Do you have a pob?
Yeah chaos is tricky as in POB it might show up as less damage, but in reality it's pretty crazy as mobs have little chaos res and bosses have less chaos res than a ele res. You also don't need EE, so it's easier to maintain somewhat
That was before cluster jewels though, so now it might be on par, unless you are specifically emphasizing damage with chaos jewels as well.
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Posted byAngry_Roleplayeron Jun 5, 2020, 4:29:30 AM
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guys, can someone explain how controlled destruction affect phantasms?
and also explain difference with chaos build? so ill try it as well?)
sry im kinda nobie with summons
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Posted bySummy111on Jun 5, 2020, 3:20:35 PMBanned
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guys, can someone explain how controlled destruction affect phantasms?
and also explain difference with chaos build? so ill try it as well?)
sry im kinda nobie with summons
controlled destruction increases spell damage. phantasms cast spells
forget about chaos build for now
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Posted byAngry_Roleplayeron Jun 5, 2020, 4:31:54 PM
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guys, can someone explain how controlled destruction affect phantasms?
and also explain difference with chaos build? so ill try it as well?)
sry im kinda nobie with summons
controlled destruction increases spell damage. phantasms cast spells
forget about chaos build for now
thanks! but if ill try to replace it and make some cluster upgrades tio minions crits - may i get dps improve or wont even worth a try?
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Posted bySummy111on Jun 5, 2020, 5:44:43 PMBanned
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guys, can someone explain how controlled destruction affect phantasms?
and also explain difference with chaos build? so ill try it as well?)
sry im kinda nobie with summons
controlled destruction increases spell damage. phantasms cast spells
forget about chaos build for now
thanks! but if ill try to replace it and make some cluster upgrades tio minions crits - may i get dps improve or wont even worth a try?
You can only replace life nodes with some cluster jewels
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Posted byAngry_Roleplayeron Jun 6, 2020, 3:31:50 AM
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