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amazing build and thankyou for keeping the build updated apreciate it . 2 dumb question coming in hehe , im a big fan of the toxic rain skill , im curious if this build work with toxic rain instead of scourge arrow in any way? would it be a huge dps lost ? what changes/gem links would you recommend if viable? sorry to bother you with the questions just curious to see how TR would perform with a defensive build like this and not the usuall glass cannon ones . thank you
Thanks. Here's my noob take on Toxic Rain with suboptimal gears stolen from my own Poison-focused Scourge Arrow:
https://youtu.be/Dv7HwQygatA
Seems to be OKish with (5 frenzy + 4 endurance charges + 1.25x Fortify, mana was a non-issue) although the gears were mediocre for DoT build. Be also noted that pure DoT builds received some nerf from the cluster jewels (stacking skill duration -> DoT duration). Poison doesn't benefit from skill duration, so we're good.
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Basically just use any TR/HoA build guide, and mix them together. Same goes for CA. Change anything that was for channeling before over to chaos dot multi or chaos dot.
A lot of people will league start as CA/TR (or one or the other) and move to this build over time. Its not necessary at all. But CA and TR may be slightly better than an undergeared SA build early. Or not. It really doesnt matter.
A good "mix" of the two builds involves using CA as your main skill and TR instead of blast rain as your witherer (is that a word?)
Honestly its very easy to manipulate and move between them.
Thumb up!
And don't forget we have the leveling-up section in the OP as well. Looking forward to hearing feedbacks from you guys. :)
Poison Scourge Arrow/Toxic Rain + Blast Rain PF| Bottled Fortify:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2851574
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Posted byWolfieNaon Jun 17, 2020, 9:14:33 AM
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Looks like a neat build, think I've watched some of your videos. Gonna start this melee-league with something not-melee. So far this is on the top of my list :)
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Posted bymuunistion Jun 17, 2020, 9:15:54 AM
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I'm glad that at least one of the top builds I was considering survived with only a few issues. I'll be going SA for this league, so I look forward to your 3.11 changes!
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Posted byGenuineProdigyon Jun 17, 2020, 10:17:15 AM
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Dumb question, i looked through the build and i see you mention we can pick up three endurance charges and i cannot for the life of me see where you are getting them from. Sorry if i missed it. Are you just crafting the mod on rings and ammy but dont mention that?
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Posted byDarkWolfGod32on Jun 17, 2020, 10:22:39 AM
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amazing build and thankyou for keeping the build updated apreciate it . 2 dumb question coming in hehe , im a big fan of the toxic rain skill , im curious if this build work with toxic rain instead of scourge arrow in any way? would it be a huge dps lost ? what changes/gem links would you recommend if viable? sorry to bother you with the questions just curious to see how TR would perform with a defensive build like this and not the usuall glass cannon ones . thank you
Thanks. Here's my noob take on Toxic Rain with suboptimal gears stolen from my own Poison-focused Scourge Arrow:
https://youtu.be/Dv7HwQygatA
Seems to be OKish with (5 frenzy + 4 endurance charges + 1.25x Fortify, mana was a non-issue) although the gears were mediocre for DoT build. Be also noted that pure DoT builds received some nerf from the cluster jewels (stacking skill duration -> DoT duration). Poison doesn't benefit from skill duration, so we're good.
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Basically just use any TR/HoA build guide, and mix them together. Same goes for CA. Change anything that was for channeling before over to chaos dot multi or chaos dot.
A lot of people will league start as CA/TR (or one or the other) and move to this build over time. Its not necessary at all. But CA and TR may be slightly better than an undergeared SA build early. Or not. It really doesnt matter.
A good "mix" of the two builds involves using CA as your main skill and TR instead of blast rain as your witherer (is that a word?)
Honestly its very easy to manipulate and move between them.
Thumb up!
And don't forget we have the leveling-up section in the OP as well. Looking forward to hearing feedbacks from you guys. :)
apreciate the help from both of you Perce79 and WolfieNa thank you , will definitly league start with this build an will try to push toxic rain as much as i can in it see how it goes .
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Posted byrealVIPon Jun 17, 2020, 11:44:26 AM
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Dumb question, i looked through the build and i see you mention we can pick up three endurance charges and i cannot for the life of me see where you are getting them from. Sorry if i missed it. Are you just crafting the mod on rings and ammy but dont mention that?
Enduring composure on the small cluster jewel.
IGN: Bonered
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Posted byGhostboneron Jun 17, 2020, 12:39:14 PM
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There is a new variant I created with Aul's and +2 endurance that cleared the 100% Delirious T18 juiced map x2 beyond quite well. I'll update PoB for those who are interested.
Yes I'll look at it, nothing else to do in standard right now anyway.
IGN: Bonered
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Posted byGhostboneron Jun 17, 2020, 12:45:58 PM
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PoB 3.11 (Draft)
Hi every one,
I am updating the end-game PoB for 3.11. Look like there is some issue with frenzy charge's APS bonus not getting reflected into PoB calculation for me. I'm talking with LocalIdentity1 (lead of PoB folk version) to see if he also can replicate the issue on his end.
In the meantime, if you want to try the build in Standard league, you can get a draft version here:
https://pastebin.com/A2xRuvqq
- Two of the new variants can have a whooping 5 endurance charges + Malevolence and 1.25x Fortify. (if you don't have the +1 charge boot, it'll be 4 endurance charges).
- Also note that some of the passives have been shuttled around in 3.11 (confirmed by LocalIdentity1 himself), Thread of Hopes may not be the way to go.
Besides the frenzy charges, let me know your thoughts on this PoB draft.
Thank you all!
Poison Scourge Arrow/Toxic Rain + Blast Rain PF| Bottled Fortify:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2851574
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Posted byWolfieNaon Jun 17, 2020, 12:56:06 PM
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What's the new flask effect duration looking like for the hybrid flask? If it doesn't feel great you could toss in the Retch, it fits somewhat well with the build.
The new enduring cry looks great.
Btw, this wheel isn't new, but Profane Chemistry just looks amazing for this build. Life recovery from flask, max life, and flask effect.
Thanks for the suggestion aurican65.
The latest PoB that updated for 3.11 shows that our hybrid flask recovers 14,800 life over 6 secs, from 17,000 life over 6 secs in 3.10. I don't think that'd be a problem at all. The new notable Spiked Concoction should be able to help us gain charges even faster.
Profane Chemistry is in our build now. :) Check the draft PoB I posted above.
Poison Scourge Arrow/Toxic Rain + Blast Rain PF| Bottled Fortify:
https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2851574
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Posted byWolfieNaon Jun 17, 2020, 1:08:31 PM
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PoB 3.11 (Draft)
Hi every one,
I am updating the end-game PoB for 3.11. Look like there is some issue with frenzy charge's APS bonus not getting reflected into PoB calculation for me. I'm talking with LocalIdentity1 (lead of PoB folk version) to see if he also can replicate the issue on his end.
In the meantime, if you want to try the build in Standard league, you can get a draft version here:
https://pastebin.com/A2xRuvqq
- Two of the new variants can have a whooping 5 endurance charges + Malevolence and 1.25x Fortify. (if you don't have the +1 charge boot, it'll be 4 endurance charges).
- Also note that some of the passives have been shuttled around in 3.11 (confirmed by LocalIdentity1 himself), Thread of Hopes may not be the way to go.
Besides the frenzy charges, let me know your thoughts on this PoB draft.
Thank you all!
When I copy the pastebin into PoB it gives me an error about trying to load an unrecognized tree. Although, I have the latest update according to PoB when I check for update.
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Posted byGenuineProdigyon Jun 17, 2020, 2:35:55 PM
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