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Unfortunately I have no way to directly compare DPS against his build because I can't add Triad Grip into his setup without running across the accuracy issue. But I'm getting marginally better DPS just by having Hatred/Bonechill effect, without even doing the full cold conversion to double dip off Hatred...

I'm just going to leave it at that.

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aWildOzzy wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EQdPsXIcBRg&t=1s

That's his impromptu youtube channel, and video in particular, while his account is hacked

My issue with it is that his PoB seems to be different than mine, even after I've imported it.

I imported his build, changed nothing except to add EE on the tree and switch to cold setup...

His DPS per minion (with Impale): 971k
DPS for Cold Conversion (same tree etc): 982k

Switched out his 2 Cold Iron Points for the minion wand he had in the POB and a non-useful shield.

Anyway yeah, cold does more damage. It's close apparently. However, he does have to be dual wielding CIP and not use a shield so some definite sacrifice in defenses. Also does not include any damage he's losing due to monster armor.

POB I modified: https://pastebin.com/fds9S7cU

Edit: I just realized the setup I changed didn't even have Triad Grip in it. For some reason, taking out the two-socket (!) Command of the Pit from the build he has up causes damage to drop by 75% (!). I'm totally at a loss for what is going on with that. I assume something to do with minion accuracy?

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Mecielle wrote:

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Unfortunately I have no way to directly compare DPS against his build because I can't add Triad Grip into his setup without running across the accuracy issue. But I'm getting marginally better DPS just by having Hatred/Bonechill effect, without even doing the full cold conversion to double dip off Hatred...

I'm just going to leave it at that.

I edited my comment above, just thro on 1000 minion accuracy on another item and then put Triad Grip in. He uses a level 1 AW gem, so PoB uses level 1 accuracy. At level 20 we will be at 100% chance to hit even without Command of the Pit.

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Okay, after adding +1000 accuracy onto the nerf flask, and with Triad Grip: 1.1M DPS per minion using cold, or about 13% better damage.
https://pastebin.com/UZVZVrWe

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Mecielle wrote:

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Okay, after adding +1000 accuracy onto the nerf flask, and with Triad Grip: 1.1M DPS per minion using cold, or about 13% better damage.
https://pastebin.com/UZVZVrWe

Well, you put in a wand. Since the Cold Iron Point's do absolutely nothing in his PoB, it would only be fair to not use a wand in yours. And when the CIP's start working in PoB I am pretty sure cold has no way to come even close to phys impale, even with dual wielding +2 wands. Levels don't just increase damage, levels give more max AW's, so +6 from CIP vs +2 from a wand/shield might actually be 2 AW's more.

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

I don't have a lot of dexterity when I play so I try and limit the amount of piano playing I need to do.

As such, is there a support gem I could replace Deathmark with or is that too important?

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AndyLovesHisBge wrote:

I don't have a lot of dexterity when I play so I try and limit the amount of piano playing I need to do.

As such, is there a support gem I could replace Deathmark with or is that too important?

Yes, it's easily replaced. One of Hypothermia/Multistrike/Ruthless or similar will all give comparable DPS to Deathmark.

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Mecielle wrote:

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Okay, after adding +1000 accuracy onto the nerf flask, and with Triad Grip: 1.1M DPS per minion using cold, or about 13% better damage.
https://pastebin.com/UZVZVrWe

Well, you put in a wand. Since the Cold Iron Point's do absolutely nothing in his PoB, it would only be fair to not use a wand in yours. And when the CIP's start working in PoB I am pretty sure cold has no way to come even close to phys impale, even with dual wielding +2 wands. Levels don't just increase damage, levels give more max AW's, so +6 from CIP vs +2 from a wand/shield might actually be 2 AW's more.

Eh, see the edit, added elemental exposure from AG and took out wands. 1M DPS per with no weapon/shield equipped.

Going really nuts, could add in something like a Hatred String of Servitude for 10% more DPS to cold. Phys POB also doesn't include monster armor ratings...