💀3.15💀 iLL3aT’s Cold Skeleton Warriors/Archers/Mages ❆ League Starter ❆ All Content ❆

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4uKu6am6oHu wrote:
Hello. If I have money for second cluster tree, its worth to take it? If yes, what nodes should i skip for it?

Also, idk, but why in pob predator gives more dmg compared to elemental focus?


I would probably upgrade other items first since they keep nerfing clusters and at this point they're barely better than the base tree.

Theoretically EF & pred should both be 49% multipliers and thus the same. I'll look into this later.

I'm planning to revamp the level four gear, but if you want a head start, it essentially means moving the skeletons into a +3 minion level, minion damage support, hypothermia helmet. You could probably craft a base one for ~10 ex or so if you want. The fancier version with the 30% more damage like I'm using (though only +2 minion level) is more expensive but an option as well. They're relatively easy to craft with harvest. It then opens up the chest for a well crafted (double influenced) rare and possibly a curse setup.
3.15 ❆ Cold Skeletons guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2774965
Last edited by iLL3aT on Feb 3, 2021, 1:45:30 PM
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PHILtheTANK wrote:
Is anybody doing the archer variant? Just wondering how it feels before I commit to dropping a large bulk of my currency on the gem lol.


The archer variant is my favorite of the three personally and I think with the changes coming, I suspect it's the highest DPS of the three too. The downside is of course the cost of the gem, especially if you want a vaal or 21 version (farm Glennarch for temples).
3.15 ❆ Cold Skeletons guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2774965
sir how to craft that helmet? spamming horror? thanks
Greetings!

First of all, I wanted to thank you iLL3aT for this magnificent guide. I found it at the Delirium league, when I played a miner boss carry for an MF group, and even tho it was decent geared, it could not manage to clear a T16 100%Delirium map and the carry I called did it hands down, in two minute. I spent days looking for the guy on poeninja and then I found your guide and I'm still in love with every inch of it. I read a few negative reply, but in my case, I had absoluletly no problem with the progression curve, ever. Even the cheapest version of the recommended gear is a beast and easily the best league starter in my opinion.

In harvest I had the luck to obtain two mirror tier wand, and a lv6Q20AW multi, since skipped the Heist, now is my time to continue chasing that impossible perfection Level 5 Gear recommendation of yours :)

I'd share, but sadly I could not manage to sim my dps on PoB, even after updating to the community fork version.

Regarding to spectres, actually I have a question too. Currently rolling with two Arena Master and two Syndicate Operative, it's hard to decide if I should go back to Arena Master and Crabbies or not.
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iLL3aT wrote:
I would probably upgrade other items first since they keep nerfing clusters and at this point they're barely better than the base tree.

Theoretically EF & pred should both be 49% multipliers and thus the same. I'll look into this later.


Thanks.

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iLL3aT wrote:
I'm planning to revamp the level four gear, but if you want a head start, it essentially means moving the skeletons into a +3 minion level, minion damage support, hypothermia helmet. You could probably craft a base one for ~10 ex or so if you want. The fancier version with the 30% more damage like I'm using (though only +2 minion level) is more expensive but an option as well. They're relatively easy to craft with harvest. It then opens up the chest for a well crafted (double influenced) rare and possibly a curse setup.


Would be very good. Will wait.

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iLL3aT wrote:
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PHILtheTANK wrote:
Is anybody doing the archer variant? Just wondering how it feels before I commit to dropping a large bulk of my currency on the gem lol.


The archer variant is my favorite of the three personally and I think with the changes coming, I suspect it's the highest DPS of the three too. The downside is of course the cost of the gem, especially if you want a vaal or 21 version (farm Glennarch for temples).



Do archers clear about the same as mages? And how is their dps to bosses? So far mages seemed okayish but id take more dps. I also have gg bone helmet, i guess i could use it as a base for archers 6 link?

But i feel at this point regular skeletons with full cold conversion would be best, since you need to swap only 1 gem for clear.
Last edited by BiggestCombo on Feb 3, 2021, 8:42:52 PM
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ap0y wrote:
sir how to craft that helmet? spamming horror? thanks


I used four socket resonators with glyphic, bound, pristine, and dense when the resonators were 25c. Now, I would probably just stick with the classic glyphic, bound, prismatic (unless someone has a better suggestion). Mine's not perfect being a +2, but resonators are too expensive now.

3.15 ❆ Cold Skeletons guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2774965
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Awzaroth wrote:
Greetings!

First of all, I wanted to thank you iLL3aT for this magnificent guide. I found it at the Delirium league, when I played a miner boss carry for an MF group, and even tho it was decent geared, it could not manage to clear a T16 100%Delirium map and the carry I called did it hands down, in two minute. I spent days looking for the guy on poeninja and then I found your guide and I'm still in love with every inch of it. I read a few negative reply, but in my case, I had absoluletly no problem with the progression curve, ever. Even the cheapest version of the recommended gear is a beast and easily the best league starter in my opinion.

In harvest I had the luck to obtain two mirror tier wand, and a lv6Q20AW multi, since skipped the Heist, now is my time to continue chasing that impossible perfection Level 5 Gear recommendation of yours :)

I'd share, but sadly I could not manage to sim my dps on PoB, even after updating to the community fork version.

Regarding to spectres, actually I have a question too. Currently rolling with two Arena Master and two Syndicate Operative, it's hard to decide if I should go back to Arena Master and Crabbies or not.


Thanks Awzaroth! I welcome criticism and hopefully try to improve on it. I know in 3.10 I was still reeling from the massive nerfs the build (and necromancers) got hit with and trying to adapt all while knowing not nearly as much as I do now. For reference, the build had 6k life, 3k es, max block & 45 spell block or so in 3.9. Between 3.9 and 3.10, the max number of skeletons was cut from 15 to 12, and skeleton damage was nerfed by 40%.

In regards to level 5 gear, I need to play around with that one again since it has changed a LOT. The minions will be moved to the helmet for sure - used to be hard to recommend since the gg helmets were super hard to craft outside of harvest (which we were told was not going to go core then).

I'd add at least one crab for sure - they debuff the enemy and have them take extra cold damage per both poedb & tested by a reddit user.
3.15 ❆ Cold Skeletons guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2774965
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iLL3aT wrote:
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ap0y wrote:
sir how to craft that helmet? spamming horror? thanks


I used four socket resonators with glyphic, bound, pristine, and dense when the resonators were 25c. Now, I would probably just stick with the classic glyphic, bound, prismatic (unless someone has a better suggestion). Mine's not perfect being a +2, but resonators are too expensive now.



Looks hard. I want to buy one without essence.

There is some on trade with +3 minions +3 crit + minion dmg + hypothermia (and hp + resist) for 20-30 exalts. Worth buying?
Last edited by 4uKu6am6oHu on Feb 3, 2021, 9:37:09 PM
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BiggestCombo wrote:

Do archers clear about the same as mages? And how is their dps to bosses? So far mages seemed okayish but id take more dps. I also have gg bone helmet, i guess i could use it as a base for archers 6 link?

But i feel at this point regular skeletons with full cold conversion would be best, since you need to swap only 1 gem for clear.


Yep, exact same clear. No comparison on boss damage, but I always remarked that mage DPS felt pretty low compared to what I was used to (though VSS with mages is amazing).

At high levels of gear with archers, I run everything but end game bosses with the mapping setup (LMP & chain) so there's not too much swapping required.
3.15 ❆ Cold Skeletons guide: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2774965

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