[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

Hi guys !
I'm thinking of switching my ED/C Trickster for this build to keep something tanky AND got a boss killer too (wich can do all content, blight map included).

I've some questions :
- What will be the impact of the incoming Herald nerf ?
- What cluster jewel are you using ? those from the "Cluster Jewel POB" or other one ? other alternative ?

Thanks for this well written guide !
The impact would be NONE. This build was never abusing herald stacking in the first place.

The pob jewels are ideal, as 60 stacks and the super slow virulence decay make it quite nice.

Cheapest are around 7ex at the moment (large ones). The medium ones are around 100c each.

Chest is around 22ex, Wand is around 10+, Shield is around 20, the rings are cheap, gloves are 12.

21 Gems are usually 2ex. Flask is 16ex

Unless you have the currency this build will not surpass your ED Trickster by damage and tankiness as you'd be sitting on 1.5M tops with crappy 6k ES hardly able to cap resists.

That is if you follow the luxury pob ofc. The OP has own pob with a budget version without clusters and everything.

Ok it's great news !

I'm sitting of 9ex of currencies and potential 20-30ex if I sell my trickster gear, so it's cool ^^

I'll level the Gardian to see if the gameplay is satisfying (i already liked an HoA occultist CI gameplay once) before selling/buying new gear.

Right now this build seems to answer my trickster's problem with the boss fight during way too much (lack of single target damage), more facetanking and easier blight map.
And most importantly : way much tankier...

Thanks for the answer !
Last edited by Arkhandar#6510 on Mar 31, 2020, 5:21:19 AM
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xecutable1 wrote:
The impact would be NONE. This build was never abusing herald stacking in the first place.

The pob jewels are ideal, as 60 stacks and the super slow virulence decay make it quite nice.

Cheapest are around 7ex at the moment (large ones). The medium ones are around 100c each.

Chest is around 22ex, Wand is around 10+, Shield is around 20, the rings are cheap, gloves are 12.

21 Gems are usually 2ex. Flask is 16ex

Unless you have the currency this build will not surpass your ED Trickster by damage and tankiness as you'd be sitting on 1.5M tops with crappy 6k ES hardly able to cap resists.

That is if you follow the luxury pob ofc. The OP has own pob with a budget version without clusters and everything.



What ur talking about u don't need +1 extra corruption on chest and whitout it chest is 100 chaos max .
ANd i think Kyuhlee pob is the best atm for this league and i don't see any gloves or jewel there what costs 7 ex or shield 20??? WTF are u talking about???
Shield with :

200+ ES
+1 to Level of all Physical Spell Skill Gems
Recover 5% of Energy Shield when you Block

Are at 14-20ex on trade website, optimal gear is expensive but it make a goal to achieve with all those free time !
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Maestery wrote:
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xecutable1 wrote:
The impact would be NONE. This build was never abusing herald stacking in the first place.

The pob jewels are ideal, as 60 stacks and the super slow virulence decay make it quite nice.

Cheapest are around 7ex at the moment (large ones). The medium ones are around 100c each.

Chest is around 22ex, Wand is around 10+, Shield is around 20, the rings are cheap, gloves are 12.

21 Gems are usually 2ex. Flask is 16ex

Unless you have the currency this build will not surpass your ED Trickster by damage and tankiness as you'd be sitting on 1.5M tops with crappy 6k ES hardly able to cap resists.

That is if you follow the luxury pob ofc. The OP has own pob with a budget version without clusters and everything.



What ur talking about u don't need +1 extra corruption on chest and whitout it chest is 100 chaos max .
ANd i think Kyuhlee pob is the best atm for this league and i don't see any gloves or jewel there what costs 7 ex or shield 20??? WTF are u talking about???


That's because you haven't opened the character profile from the site. The Asenath's Gentle Touch are exactly 12ex, currently equipped on the person, who's pob you are looking at and the shield with that amount of ES, recover and +1 is exactly what I wrote.

My comment was a reply to what this build will feel like on a budget to a fully geared ED trickster.
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Last edited by Maestery#5953 on Mar 31, 2020, 9:15:09 AM
which one is better, grand spectrum (legacy one that give mana) or rare jewel like the update on the guide?
thank you
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xecutable1 wrote:
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Maestery wrote:
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xecutable1 wrote:
The impact would be NONE. This build was never abusing herald stacking in the first place.

The pob jewels are ideal, as 60 stacks and the super slow virulence decay make it quite nice.

Cheapest are around 7ex at the moment (large ones). The medium ones are around 100c each.

Chest is around 22ex, Wand is around 10+, Shield is around 20, the rings are cheap, gloves are 12.

21 Gems are usually 2ex. Flask is 16ex

Unless you have the currency this build will not surpass your ED Trickster by damage and tankiness as you'd be sitting on 1.5M tops with crappy 6k ES hardly able to cap resists.

That is if you follow the luxury pob ofc. The OP has own pob with a budget version without clusters and everything.



What ur talking about u don't need +1 extra corruption on chest and whitout it chest is 100 chaos max .
ANd i think Kyuhlee pob is the best atm for this league and i don't see any gloves or jewel there what costs 7 ex or shield 20??? WTF are u talking about???


That's because you haven't opened the character profile from the site. The Asenath's Gentle Touch are exactly 12ex, currently equipped on the person, who's pob you are looking at and the shield with that amount of ES, recover and +1 is exactly what I wrote.

My comment was a reply to what this build will feel like on a budget to a fully geared ED trickster.


Fist of all, Asenath glove is expensive but I am only using them for delving over depth 700. Other than that, just use any rare gloves (Sorcerer Glove with culling strike would be great, and not expensive).

Second, I crafted the shield and it costs about 7ex. Titanium shield with +1 chaos/physical skill gem was 20-50c when I bought, and it is about 16% chance to get 5% ES recover from crusader's exalted orb. I made it in 3rd try.

Third, the large jewel is not that expensive. I am using only "vengeful commander" and "schintillating idea". I just check and it is about 1.5 ~ 2ex each. I believe you can also craft them. I bought one but I crafted one by myself with less than 100c.

Fourth, bottled faith is not necessary and it is actually not that useful. I only use that for ES regen because it provides large Consecrated Ground. This is only for maximizing the survivability in the deep delve.

Fifth, yes, chest and watcher's eye are super expensive, and I believe +1 corrupted chest is very important for this build. But watcher's eye is not necessary.

Lastly, I agree that ED trickster might be better with low-budget, especially for the league starter. But I believe this build has much more potential when you invest more and more currency.
Last edited by kyuhlee00#5752 on Mar 31, 2020, 10:13:05 AM
Now that our shield wont effect radiant faith what is the best choice?

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