[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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mickygotbigballs wrote:
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Played quite a few other tier 1 builds and quickly realized the non-glass canon version of these builds can't beat Herald of Agony in real world damage.


Yeah, the combination of insane tankyness and actual boss dps is just too much. Historically when they nerfed a skill and it was still used heavily after that they doubled down on the nerfs (see WO).

In the best case scenario this build will be "normalized", in the worst case they could nerf every single aspect of the build individually and destroy it.
Herald of Agony already got multiple nerfs between Delve and Synthesis, but tbh so did Storm Brand and few other skills that people just kept using and using, especially for purposes like racing, speed levelling and building full tank with no dps investment and still clearing all the content. Molten strike was in the gutter whole Legion and Blight and only got slight reversal of nerfs in Metamorph because back in Synthesis people abused it on full tank Juggs and GGG didn't like it.

If they want to lower the base damage of minions, they need to increase ways of scaling minion damage.
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Lone Messenger
You can only have one Herald
50% more Effect of Herald Buffs on you
100% more Damage with Hits from Herald Skills
50% more Damage Over Time with Herald Skills
Minions from Herald Skills deal 25% more Damage
Your Aura Skills are Disabled


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Cult-Leader
Minions deal 35% increased Damage while you are affected by a Herald


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Pure Agony
+1 to maximum number of Sentinels of Purity
+5 to Maximum Virulence
Minions deal 20% increased Damage while you are affected by a Herald


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Disciples
1% additional Physical Damage Reduction per Summoned Sentinel of Purity
You lose Virulence 30% slower
Minions deal 20% increased Damage while you are affected by a Herald

(Virulence is granted by the Herald of Agony Skill)
Last edited by Besovskii#1866 on Mar 10, 2020, 3:36:28 AM
That seems huge but what about your aura skills are disable?
Guys the league starter is HoA + herald of purity.
So new jewel are so insane. They said on baeclast that they were nerfing the es from our ascendancy and prob they gonna hit hoag dmg too.

But that's cause the new jewel have insane stacks. + 5 to virulence stacks +20 minions dmg it's insane. And the new es/mana jewel are insane too 20%increased mana. Like if you can get a jewel with those 2 implícits it's gonna be real nutty

So I think the nerfs that are about to come were needed cause of the power boost that these new jewels give

Edit: the new aura jewel are insane too like 30% aura effect they gonna nerf the es on our ascendscy cause of that too would be an even bigger power boost for aura bots
Last edited by CutieSabba#7164 on Mar 10, 2020, 6:18:27 AM
Thanks for making this awesome build. I hit lvl 100 with for the first time. Now I just hope that the build will at least be playable in 3.10 and wont get completely destroyed. The radiant faith + shaper's touch + grand spectrum + HoaG nerfs all at once might really hurt.
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CutieSabba wrote:
So new jewel are so insane. They said on baeclast that they were nerfing the es from our ascendancy and prob they gonna hit hoag dmg too.

But that's cause the new jewel have insane stacks. + 5 to virulence stacks +20 minions dmg it's insane. And the new es/mana jewel are insane too 20%increased mana. Like if you can get a jewel with those 2 implícits it's gonna be real nutty

So I think the nerfs that are about to come were needed cause of the power boost that these new jewels give

Edit: the new aura jewel are insane too like 30% aura effect they gonna nerf the es on our ascendscy cause of that too would be an even bigger power boost for aura bots


That reminds me of people arguing that nerfs to their builds were OK because awakened support gems would make up for that, they didn't.

All the jewels and nodes apply to other builds and some, like impale, are getting INSANE buffs compared to HOAG.
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CutieSabba wrote:
So new jewel are so insane. They said on baeclast that they were nerfing the es from our ascendancy and prob they gonna hit hoag dmg too.

But that's cause the new jewel have insane stacks. + 5 to virulence stacks +20 minions dmg it's insane. And the new es/mana jewel are insane too 20%increased mana. Like if you can get a jewel with those 2 implícits it's gonna be real nutty

So I think the nerfs that are about to come were needed cause of the power boost that these new jewels give

Edit: the new aura jewel are insane too like 30% aura effect they gonna nerf the es on our ascendscy cause of that too would be an even bigger power boost for aura bots


That reminds me of people arguing that nerfs to their builds were OK because awakened support gems would make up for that, they didn't.

All the jewels and nodes apply to other builds and some, like impale, are getting INSANE buffs compared to HOAG.
Hey!

I am considering starting as a guardian summoner instead of necro summoner this league (tired of dying).

How good would this build be in Blight maps?
Necro Frost Sentinels are EZ mode.
HoA usually clear screens but only one of them could be limiting?

Cheers!
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mickygotbigballs wrote:
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CutieSabba wrote:
So new jewel are so insane. They said on baeclast that they were nerfing the es from our ascendancy and prob they gonna hit hoag dmg too.

But that's cause the new jewel have insane stacks. + 5 to virulence stacks +20 minions dmg it's insane. And the new es/mana jewel are insane too 20%increased mana. Like if you can get a jewel with those 2 implícits it's gonna be real nutty

So I think the nerfs that are about to come were needed cause of the power boost that these new jewels give

Edit: the new aura jewel are insane too like 30% aura effect they gonna nerf the es on our ascendscy cause of that too would be an even bigger power boost for aura bots


That reminds me of people arguing that nerfs to their builds were OK because awakened support gems would make up for that, they didn't.

All the jewels and nodes apply to other builds and some, like impale, are getting INSANE buffs compared to HOAG.


Yah thats true i guess... but yah since alot of ppl went for mana guardian last league the nerfs for it was expected i guess. Even more so with the power creep from these jewels. But i dont think they gonna hit the dmg that much.Prob just a tiny bit

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