[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

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Thomasmgp wrote:
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pitekk92 wrote:
is it possible to get 31 lvl hoa with out chest +2 gems?


with a +1 shield. However, since that extra +1 corrupt actually gives you 2 levels you would also need a +2 Amulet. So basically you can do it but its gonna be A LOT more expensive, so whats the point? You would need to not only hit +2 on the amulet but also hit a high Dex roll, like 50+ total. Not to mention you lose the sustain of the Whaka with 5% ES regen when you block.

I paid 20ex for my


I also paid 80c for my
which has all the stats we need(Dex, Mana, ES, and some resists to cap) A similar Amulet thats also +2 doesnt even exist. There isnt even a +2 Ammy with only 3 of my same stats.




I did not find a cheaper chest than 100ex for now :D
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pitekk92 wrote:

I did not find a cheaper chest than 100ex for now :D


gotta be patient. I ran live search with a 25ex max for 3 days before I got mine. Be flexible with colors as long as it has 2 reds and 3 greens it will be fine.
IGN: DabrixRN
Last edited by Thomasmgp#1035 on Feb 3, 2020, 2:17:56 AM
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bot_jimmy77 wrote:
You don't need that much dex on amulet, can grab couple of dex nodes on tree.


guess it just depends on your build. Im level 95 and proly wont make it much higher since I really started pushing Delve. I just cant afford to grab any more Dex nodes other than the +30 I have now. Already gonna have to figure out how to get more out of my Lethal Pride as I need 3 more points for some stuff from it
IGN: DabrixRN
Last edited by Thomasmgp#1035 on Feb 3, 2020, 3:49:44 AM
Still waiting for an answer!

Hey, I just wanted to say thanks for this awesome guide!
I tried HoA Jugg before and it's not even close to mana guardian, which I found pretty cool and tough tanky.
I wanted to ask what I should aim first in a matter of gear? Check my profile please for a character info. Thank you so much!
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anthouwgame wrote:

I wanted to ask what I should aim first in a matter of gear? Check my profile please for a character info. Thank you so much!


Eventually you should aim to get your hoag to level 31, so +2 wand, +1 chest and +1 amulet, but if you want to get that without losing too much es, it's going to be expensive, since you need a decent amulet and stygian vise.

Before that you should get empower level 4, all your damage comes from agony gem level, so that's a huge upgrade.

After that get a level 21 spectre gem, which combined with +1 in your wand and +3 in your shield will make it lvl 25, letting you summon 4 specres, which combined with agony crawler give you onslaught buff from your ascendancy.

Also try to upgrade your boots to the ones suggested in this guide, get a curse immunity flask and put attribute quality on your amulet.
How would you get to 31 hoag with just +4 in gear?

Edit: nevermind. +2 Chest buffs Empower
Last edited by Honza82#3857 on Feb 3, 2020, 7:04:40 AM


Just letting people know my old boots are up for sale.

It's got the 2% regen lab, and a stack of res and ES/mana as well as 30 movement speed which I prefer as I don't like the slow boots everyone has been crafting.

While I used a flask for cannot be frozen - I never did die to frozen. I don't get frozen all that much but i'm at the point now where upgrades cost 15+ ex and I probably won't get those upgrades so I'm just spending on some stuff recklessly :)

My new boots have the conqueror fire effect (for looks only), lower res so I'm less overcapped and T1 movespeed (35%). Cannot be frozen. Pretty much the only reason for this kinda useless upgrade was the cosmetics and QoL from the frozen even though it was kinda meaningless to me.

Price is negotiable and is only based on what I gather was market price from the other items being sold.
Last edited by Armisal#5804 on Feb 3, 2020, 9:02:16 AM
After getting a +2 wand I should be able to replace shield correct? What are thoughts of using an Apep Supremacy instead? In theory it seems like that would add bleeding to the long list of things this build is completely immune to. Just curious of thoughts, im pushing this build to extremes at this point doing endgame grinds and just looking to further invest in it, kinda too late to reroll a new character at this point in the league imo lol.
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AftersShocks wrote:
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mcloren91 wrote:
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AftersShocks wrote:
Hi, I been wondering which shield I should use between those 2. Is +1 lvl better then +1 spectre and the aura effect.


The Aspect of the Spider is not really relevant due to having it on my ammulet too!


p.s;I have money but a big lack of knowledge on HoAG




do you have level 31 HoAG already? if you do go with the waka shield as long as u can still get the resist you need. level 32 HoAG isnt that worth it. if you can get to level 34 that would be the next big break point.


I dont really know how I could achieve lvl 34, except if I get a Cold iron instead of my wand


so I guess ill just discard the shield for another use


they way you get 34 is +2 on neck (very expenseive) +2 on shield (very expenseive) and +2 Wand (semi expensive)
i see alot of people talking about the lvl 31 HOAG build. i want to say this from my experience with the lvl 31 so far.

i have a level 31 build but i did skip steps to get there. my personal recommendation for the level 31 build would be this

dont do it until you either have a solid understanding of how the build works and plays with the using the full build in this guide. OR OR OR OR if you still want to before having the full build i would strongly recommend making sure you have a watcher's eye first and the reason i say this i dont have one and getting over 10k es is very hard or expensive without the watcher eye. (that is my experience so far with doing this.)

next the way i went to get the 31 build i got rid of the Waka Shield which i highly regret because how strong it is. added it back into my build is going to cost a lot which i am hoping to be able to do by the end of the week.

if anyone has had a different experience let me know please i am curious how it went for you.
Last edited by mcloren91#6196 on Feb 3, 2020, 10:34:44 AM

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