[3.10] Herald of Agony Mana Guardian | 2.5 Minute Sirus 8 | Deathless T19 100% Delirium

For bottled faith - does the crit chance matter at all? From my PoB it seems changing the crit chance makes no difference on the agony crawler's dps.

Seems only the damage mod matters, is that right?
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Goa1aso wrote:
I am trying to fit 20/20 Animate Guardian into this build, while having it still be tanky. I currently have it on a 4 link, with Level 3 Empower, Meat Shield, and Minion Life attached to it.

I sacrificed the Vaal Molten Shell setup (with increased duration) and also got rid of Faster Casting on Ball lightning to fit the links in.

I'm also using Silverback Ape specters for frenzy charge generation. My specter's links are: Minion Life and Feeding Frenzy in my +3 shield.

When I tried fighting The Hunter, 2 of my specters died, along with my AG. What can I do to help them survive? (chaos damage especially) I've even gone out of my way to grab some minion life regeneration nodes on the tree but I'm not sure what else I can do.

Edit: My character's name is ImaginePlayinMinions if you want to see my gear on my profile
I've experimented with that, dropping a gem from shield for that makes him level 25+. He won't be able to survive everything as a guardian period, you have to watch for some stuff. Dropping feeding frenzy hurts dps a fair bit, but AG buffs you some. Dropping meat shield loses taunt (10% less damage to you when taunted) and a lot of tankiness. I prefer meat shield over minion life, mostly due to taunt.

Sacrificing Vaal Molten Shell I'd advise against. T16 Metamorphs get stupid, you often need that. With flasks I can hit the 30k cap. Increased duration for it and faster casting for ball lightning are more QoL, up to you.

Hunter will kill Carnage Chieftains, close to guaranteed on Awakening 8. A lot of chaos damage, they will die in seconds. Stoneskin Flayers are a lot better for him. They have around 4X the health of Chieftains, and better resists.

For AG I went with the chaos resist unique chest, Victario's shield to combined chaos resist cap, and other gear to get at least close to elemental resist cap without spirit offering. My AG lived pretty safely on hunter 8. With good block % and 5% regen from shield. Carnage Chieftains I've seen all die at once, twice now. I just went with cheap uniques, occasionally AG will die with this build.

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MrFixo wrote:
Thanks for the interesting build

I just can’t raise the ES even to 8k
and have not yet found spectres Stoneskin Flayer in the delve (depth 214)
at what depth should they be searched? Sandworn Slaves are good, but they occupy the whole screen ))
You have a tabula equipped and not Skin. That doubles defenses, including ES on gear and armor on helm.

poedb.tw.xyz says primeval nodes can spawn at 150. They are quite rare, and get somewhat more common the deeper you go. I found my first around 220. I'm around 270 and have found 3 clusters.

Anyone using the spectres, you can enter their hideout and desecrate to get them. If they are on your friends list and allow friends to enter hideout, you can do that without even making a party. Keep in mind if you weapon swap in your hideout and leave, they won't be there when you get back. Until you find your own primeval node be careful of this. Any map you had them in will allow you to desecrate there though, until the portals go away.
Last edited by Covenant#5720 on Jan 31, 2020, 11:16:17 AM
Hey guys... bastion of hope or time of need?
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MillenniumDH wrote:
Does anyone know how to craft +1 dex / +1 phys gem skill level amulet? I know the mods come from hunter and warlord but that's about it.



get the amulet with the influnce u want. then scroucing orb it. then use a transmutation orb. then start using alterations until u get the mod u are looking for. in this case +1 to dex or physical. then if you only role that mod u can augment for a second mod onto it then regal orb it. this is a really good way of doing it cause it will only give u 3 prefixes and suffixes allowing u to multi mod the rest and fill out wat u need for your build.
started this build yesterday and leveled smoothly with zombies/chieftains.
Then Hit red maps directly after respecting till level 72 so I could equip some key gear. Probably a bit too much for my setup then, however decided to do 4th lab and respected to all defensive ascendancies, got better gems/gear and went back to red maps.

Feels much tankier now like a guardian should be
I'm using cyclon with CWC as it's a much easier and faster playstyle
Damage on bosses and metas is bad but considering my setup(iron cold dagger, no wand setup + mid level gear) and level it's expected

Thanks TractatusLogico for those spectres. They seem like solid tanks and their health didn't move yet unlike those chieftains that poofed as soon as I hit red maps

So far 10 ex in and feeling better. Trying to figure if this is on par to the Baron cyclone Necro. Seriously doubt it but hoping to be pleasantly surprised
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snowmittens wrote:
started this build yesterday and leveled smoothly with zombies/chieftains.
Then Hit red maps directly after respecting till level 72 so I could equip some key gear. Probably a bit too much for my setup then, however decided to do 4th lab and respected to all defensive ascendancies, got better gems/gear and went back to red maps.

Feels much tankier now like a guardian should be
I'm using cyclon with CWC as it's a much easier and faster playstyle
Damage on bosses and metas is bad but considering my setup(iron cold dagger, no wand setup + mid level gear) and level it's expected

Thanks TractatusLogico for those spectres. They seem like solid tanks and their health didn't move yet unlike those chieftains that poofed as soon as I hit red maps

So far 10 ex in and feeling better. Trying to figure if this is on par to the Baron cyclone Necro. Seriously doubt it but hoping to be pleasantly surprised


At level 31 herald of agony, I believe this build is stronger than baron cyclone necromancer in both offense and defense. This is proven with the delve 1700 video.

However until you hit that kind of gear level, it is more defense and less damage.
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Covenant wrote:
You have a tabula equipped and not Skin. That doubles defenses, including ES on gear and armor on helm.

poedb.tw.xyz says primeval nodes can spawn at 150. They are quite rare, and get somewhat more common the deeper you go. I found my first around 220. I'm around 270 and have found 3 clusters.

Anyone using the spectres, you can enter their hideout and desecrate to get them. If they are on your friends list and allow friends to enter hideout, you can do that without even making a party. Keep in mind if you weapon swap in your hideout and leave, they won't be there when you get back. Until you find your own primeval node be careful of this. Any map you had them in will allow you to desecrate there though, until the portals go away.


thanks for the answer

I didn’t know that skin gives a bonus on ES

at a depth of 231 I met a tiny primitive area
and call on the Stoneskin Flayer
Maybe the build can catch up at a certain point to necros on damage but I doubt that it can come close to the clear speed and the easy QOL play style which are even more important. It seems that it will require massive currency invested to do just to come close on the damage

Also based on the last map I ran I'm also had a refresher how HOA is not a good choice to doing blight and legion

Still low level though and need to keep pushing on this to see where it's heading
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snowmittens wrote:
Maybe the build can catch up at a certain point to necros on damage but I doubt that it can come close to the clear speed and the easy QOL play style which are even more important. It seems that it will require massive currency invested to do just to come close on the damage

Also based on the last map I ran I'm also had a refresher how HOA is not a good choice to doing blight and legion

Still low level though and need to keep pushing on this to see where it's heading



one way to have some Quality of life with this build and legion/blight is using deathmark and controlling what the HOAG shoots at abit.
Can someone share their Stoneskin Flayers with me? Just lost mine because i did some PVP and haven't encountered the chmaber yet in Delve.

Edit: Got them thanks!
Last edited by _Yreth_#1385 on Jan 31, 2020, 5:09:55 PM

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