[3.26] ShakCentral's Cold DoT Witch For Everyone
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Is vile bastion a waste of ascendancy passive when I have a chayula amulet?
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" It's not if you struggle with survivability (till you take first Large Cluster and Cinderswallow). |
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" I have cinderswallow so that's fine. What do you mean by first large cluster? I sometimes still get oneshot but I believe cinderswallow replaces vile bastion by a large portion right? |
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" I had a similar question. I think that's an older part of the guide that needs an update, although maybe with the buffs to frost bomb there could be a reason to run it on the wand? Maybe retain frostbite as a manual cast with the auras? anyone know? |
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" Frostbite is in the wand setup for CI builds, as your gloves are full with Vaal Disc, Vaal RF, Malevolence and Enlighten. The part that mentions using Frostbomb in EE now applies to the LL setup where you run the auras in your gloves (including Frostbite) and that opens the spot in your weapon for Frost Bomb/Tempest Shield/something else of your liking as mentioned in gem links. It must be hard to keep the guide updated and update all of the sections so they keep in Harmony so I guess some discrepancies slip through, or aren't explained better. |
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I'm struggling with the build a bit, i'm still in CI mode and struggling with dps on bosses, particularly those who are fairly mobile and will not stay in the vortex. So far I've failed miserably A3 Cirus, Vaal temple and maven watched eradicator of all things. I can get the fights to the last phase, but then I can't finish them. And it takes so long that eventually I die to something. POB lists my vortex dot DPS at 1.2M so you'd think it would be ok but it feels like it's not. What am I doing wrong? I like the build and would like to progress with it, but I don't have the currency to spend on getting a shav and trying LL, and I think I should be having more success that I am having at these levels.
The answer could of course just be "git good" but if that's the case then I need to switch to something more braindead, as I am not the best player. Here's my pastebin and my profile should be public. Thanks for the help. https://pastebin.com/7hbTDv5h |
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" Thank you that makes sense. |
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Hi everyone, I have a couple of basic questions regarding this build. I enjoy it a lot, I spent more than 100 hours with it this league and hope to spend more but I don't understand the numbers I get from PoB to be able to answer them myself.
1) This is my PoB: https://pastebin.com/2zZxdZVj I see basically a half of damage values (1M DoT DPS) in comparison with the build guide (CI version, 1.9M DoT DPS). I understand that some of my gear is suboptimal which can explain some reduction in numbers but the difference is bigger than I expected. I must be doing something wrong. Maybe I misconfigured something in PoB because otherwise mapping in T16s feels like a joke. Boss dmg is ok too I guess although it could be better. Any idea about what I am missing here? Is my gear really that trash or I just suck at PoB? 2) The guide recommends Vaal Discipline + Vaal Righteous Fire + Malevolence + Enlighten together in one item slot. I was using Frostbite + Malevolence + Blasphemy + Enlighten and it felt awesome but when I switched to the recommended setup, mapping feels so much worse and less smooth. I guess Vaal RF is great for bosses but it is such a huge drop in quality of life that I am considering switching back to my original setup. Do you think Vaal RF is really worth the QoL decrease? 3) Any ideas about what the next gear improvement focus point should be? I would appreciate any feedback from the Vortex veterans here, thanks. Last edited by deimoss98#0598 on Feb 2, 2021, 10:10:24 AM
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Hey guys! So currently getting into the endgame here, really enjoying the build. Been focused on survivability due to being newer at the game, but I feel pretty good about how hard I am to kill at this point and want to focus on upping my DPS more. Looking for reccomendations to increased DPS, but any other catches about anything I'm messing up are appreciated :).
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" definitely not a veteran here, I'm the guy asking for help with my lack of boss DPS two posts up ;) but I spent a bit comparing your POB to mine and to the official guide one. Here's what I found: the guide POB with the out-of-the-box config overstates the DPS because it has the LL auras active by default (Zealotry in particular) on the LL shield. I think it's a side effect of having both configs in POB, you have to turn on and off the appropriate skill groups for the configuration. When I turn off the LL shields, the DPS for the "CI only final" tree drops from 2M to 1.02 on Sirus. Almost exactly the same as yours. So I think there's nothing wrong with your setup and basically if you want to improve the build further you have to switch to LL. Not really sure about whether adding RF, moving frostbite to the wand and removing frost bomb will really help, as RF is only active at a few points but FB on the wand is active most time. It looks like removing FB would drop your DPS substantially on bosses to 866k on Sirus, while dropping FB and adding RF brings you back to 1.1M. So looks like RF would be a temporary boost of DPS of about 8% vs FB, assuming I have used POB appropriately. That also led me to realize that my DPS is still too low on bosses, as I did not have Sirus as the target in my config. So looking at your problem also kind of answered my own question a bit: my dps is still too low on bosses but the CI version of the build tops out at around 1M dps. Whether that's enough probably depends on play style. |
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