[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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nocek_czerny wrote:

We did not understand each other. I didn't ask how you deal with the mana. If I understand correctly, we have a limit of auras that we can use, looking at your character, I haven't seen anything that allows you to exceed this limit of auras. Unless I am wrong, my knowledge is poor.

I'm not sure sorry, I am not aware of any aura limit. Granted I'm not the most experienced player, but if aura bots can exist I don't see why there would be a limit other than fitting in reserves.

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Kelvynn wrote:

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zhulik2 wrote:

Can OP or someone check my character? I'm struggling with a damage and survivability a bit and i'm not really good at the game, much obliged in advance

You can't use 3 curses without Whispers of Doom. Anoint it (on the amulet in your case), or 3 spend 3 points to get it on the tree, or take out Elemental Weakness until you get it.

Use CwC lv 15 or 16 (I explained why a few pages ago, also linked in the guide now).

Use flasks that auto-fire. They are trivial to make now. There are recipes to enchant flasks in the crafting bench now.

I know about 3 curse anointment, 120c is tough for me tho :> Looking forward to it. Will change my CwC, and i adapted my playstyle a bit, now i use my frost shield and vigilant strike correctly, also i picked up Vaal Discipline for more boss nukes mitigation and now build plays much tankier. Thank you for your help

Just wondering ..
when i compare the staff in this thread to the actual staff in the pob classic build
there are not the same ..not even the same sockets colors ..let alone the same gems

according to this threads its 5 blue 1 green gem
and in the pob its 4 blue and 2 green gem


one of them is out of date it seems? but ..which?

"Re-buffing Awakened Gems at Level 5+, want more utility Awakened Gems"

hmm...mb returning +curse on aw.hex?

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Xeretrax wrote:

Just wondering ..
when i compare the staff in this thread to the actual staff in the pob classic build
there are not the same ..not even the same sockets colors ..let alone the same gems

according to this threads its 5 blue 1 green gem
and in the pob its 4 blue and 2 green gem


one of them is out of date it seems? but ..which?

One of em aoe map clear, second one is for bosses. Check "Sockets and Links" on builds main page

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DmRoses wrote:

Or can I do all content without those pricy pieces?

I thought some experienced players would answer you, but apparently this question comes up too often. ES-based builds are among the more expensive ones and nothing has changed here. Kelvynn probably listed 50 ex on the end game, but I think for someone who just buys and doesn't quite know what, it might be more expensive.

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nocek_czerny wrote:

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DmRoses wrote:

Or can I do all content without those pricy pieces?

I thought some experienced players would answer you, but apparently this question comes up too often. ES-based builds are among the more expensive ones and nothing has changed here. Kelvynn probably listed 50 ex on the end game, but I think for someone who just buys and doesn't quite know what, it might be more expensive.

If you're not going with the cluster jewels or minmaxing gear, you can easily play the end game with a few ex of gear. You do need to do some crafting.

How do I know this? Because I only put in 3-4 days played per league and still do red maps and end game bosses (usually hit around 9500 ES and 2400 int.)

(This league I have a book to write so have to cut back a lot.)

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DmRoses wrote:

Is it viable to craft the expensive gear? because I don't see myself getting like 25ex+ for some pieces. I'm having trouble getting res capped since I don't have much currency right now.

Or can I do all content without those pricy pieces?

You can definitely craft your own helmet with a guaranteed %Int with a Hunter Exalt for ilvl 75-79 (see the Gear section). A decent base for the slam isn't too hard to find.

Chest is 1/3 chance for ilvl 75-79 and 1/7 for high level bases. But Crusader exalt is cheaper than Hunter. I typically do that after the helmet.

Shaper/Crusader amulets are insanely expensive, and it probably has more to do with the Harvest nerf than this league being dead. I'm not an expert in crafting, but getting the damage/Int prefix (after merging the suffixes with Awakeners Orb) sounds really painful and expensive with just the good old meta-crafting. Something like 40-60 ex with average luck. Which explains the prices.

As a reasonable middle ground between Astramentis and Shaper/Crusader is either a pure Crusader amulet or a Three Rat Talisman. Amulet is a little more damage, talisman is a little more ES, but both options are fine. You can reasonably craft the amulet for under 10 ex (or just buy). Talisman is basically free to make, but you have to find a good base and then get lucky with Jorgin.

Gloves are easy to find with reasonable ES, high Int and 1 resist mod. And then you craft Aspect of the Spider on them. Or nice gloves with 2 resist mods (4-5 ex right now), and then finding rings will be easier (craft aspect on a ring).

Rings with high Int and whatever resists you need are easy to find. Crafting %Int rings is very high end and super expensive. Only worry about that after everything else is done.

Ascendant really shouldn't have any issues with resists. You get decent resists from the tree, and then even more on the cluster jewels. 1 good res mod on the helmet, 1 or 2 on the gloves, and the rest on rings.

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InsaneX3 wrote:

What is the upgrade path after getting to maps (level 69-70) by using the budget uniques listed in the OP?

https://pastebin.com/8wf5d9gw

This is my current character and got 170 chaos to my name, not sure where to go from here. Probably a good ES chest and replacing the other slots with average int + ES + Resist items?

How expensive is it currently to do t16 with 0 issues?

Just get a decent chest (400+ ES), helmet (200+ ES), gloves (100+ ES) - all with at least 40 Int. Astramentis, The Stampede, Cyclopean Coil (12%+ attr) - at this point in the league it's all cheap. Then look at your resists and get rings to max them, with 40+ Int of course.

That will be already much better than what I had by the time I reached red maps at the start of the league.

"T16 with 0 issues" is very subjective and depends on your knowledge of the game. As you can see in my videos, you can do Uber Lab at lv 72 and Shaper guardians with 7k ES. But you have to know the mechanics.

5 ex budget for easy T16 mapping should be enough.

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Xeretrax wrote:

Just wondering ..
when i compare the staff in this thread to the actual staff in the pob classic build
there are not the same ..not even the same sockets colors ..let alone the same gems

according to this threads its 5 blue 1 green gem
and in the pob its 4 blue and 2 green gem


one of them is out of date it seems? but ..which?

Classic PoB hasn't been updated with the latest gem setups yet. Use the gems frm the Links section.