[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Chen93 wrote:

Having a bunch of fun with this build. I do have a question about the Templar Ascendency. Does the "Can allocate passives from the Templar Starting Point" actually do anything for us? I haven't gotten it yet, but does a new node appear on the tree or something? Because otherwise I already seem to be pathing from the templar node (the mana regen + int one) so does that part of the ascendency not actually do anything?

The int/manaregen node you are referring to is next to Scion start. The Templar starting nodes are the ones you would start with if you were playing Templar. "Damage and Mana" and "Mana Regeneration and Life". Taking one of those 2 will activate the Templar part of the Pure Talent jewel.

My understanding is that since we have 2 last to allocate with uber lab, this is simply the best options (to have 3 passive) instead of starting another branch of the ascendacy to get 1 passive point and 20 dex+20 int

This dead league... I still don't have a good chest. The market is empty, literally 3 for sale, for insane prices. I slammed Crusader on 3 so far and failed all 3 :(

Took down the Maven. With 2.7k Int and 2 curses it took 10 minutes and 2 deaths. Haven't done her since February, out of practice. I suppose without failing the memory games it would take about 8 min with this gear. So here's a reference point.

Sirus and the Maven are two worst bosses for this build because they don't give you barely any time to damage them before they move. They are doable with 2.5k+ Int but slow. Everything else is cake.

well my only hope that in poe2 it's gona be whispering ice)

Hi, very well put together build and guide. :)

So smooth to play, I like it.

One question though.

- Why still use Second Wind with Frostblink? Looks like you still have it on?
All it does is increase manacost, right? Cooldown didnt change when I tried it and since its instant we do not get 2 uses.

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Kelvynn wrote:

This dead league... I still don't have a good chest. The market is empty, literally 3 for sale, for insane prices. I slammed Crusader on 3 so far and failed all 3 :(

yeah...trade dead
me really lucky - 10 or 20c base with 2 free suffix and lucky slam xD after 3 fail
and my helmet got t1 only on 3rd try

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archwerewolf wrote:

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Kelvynn wrote:

This dead league... I still don't have a good chest. The market is empty, literally 3 for sale, for insane prices. I slammed Crusader on 3 so far and failed all 3 :(

yeah...trade dead
me really lucky - 10 or 20c base with 2 free suffix and lucky slam xD after 3 fail

and my helmet got t1 only on 3rd try

I was kinda lucky with craft too, just used crusader on body i got in delve lol. Sad it got no flat int but decent resist is fine too.

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Kelvynn wrote:

This dead league... I still don't have a good chest. The market is empty, literally 3 for sale, for insane prices. I slammed Crusader on 3 so far and failed all 3 :(

Took down the Maven. With 2.7k Int and 2 curses it took 10 minutes and 2 deaths. Haven't done her since February, out of practice. I suppose without failing the memory games it would take about 8 min with this gear. So here's a reference point.

Sirus and the Maven are two worst bosses for this build because they don't give you barely any time to damage them before they move. They are doable with 2.5k+ Int but slow. Everything else is cake.

I'm still a way off from optimal gear, but I'm wondering at what point single target damage becomes decent; is it with the third curse? I'm currently happy to slog it out in long boss fights, as the build is fantastic for most other content, but if anyone has any industrious ideas about improving bossing speed, I'm sure we'd all benefit from them.

Thanks for putting out the great build Kelvynn, it has made this league at least somewhat enjoyable!

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lemerok wrote:

Hi, very well put together build and guide. :)

So smooth to play, I like it.

One question though.

- Why still use Second Wind with Frostblink? Looks like you still have it on?
All it does is increase manacost, right? Cooldown didnt change when I tried it and since its instant we do not get 2 uses.

I have 2 free sockets at the moment. Nothing good to do with them. 1 will get used when I get a 6L regalia and 3rd curse. The other one I was thinking maybe Enlighten lv 4 and drop Sovereignty. But what they did with Enlighten in this league... not very likely. Will probably just keep Portal instead.

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tomc33 wrote:

I'm still a way off from optimal gear, but I'm wondering at what point single target damage becomes decent; is it with the third curse? I'm currently happy to slog it out in long boss fights, as the build is fantastic for most other content, but if anyone has any industrious ideas about improving bossing speed, I'm sure we'd all benefit from them.

That depends on your idea of 'decent' and also against what target.

For many people the damage of this build vs Sirus can never be considered decent, just because Icestorm takes a couple of seconds to stack up, and by then Sirus is already starting his next move.

For others being slow on Sirus is just fine as long as you can do the stuff in the Uncharted video and be virtually unkillable in maps. After all, how many times a day are you planning to kill Sirus? Nobody would pick this build for a Sirus carry.

The noticeable increases in damage are:
- around 2k Int when you start clearing all maps by just walking thru them;
- when you switch to the cluster version;
- around 2.5k Int it becomes enough to kill Sirus AL8 without too many deaths;
- around 2.9k Int when you can farm Sirus and Maven routinely. the 3rd curse is normally obtained by that point too.