[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Graiaule wrote:

Oh lol wat? Okay arctic armor time!

Lol no it doesn't.

check out chris' latest reddit post. arctic armor will be granting freeze immunity in an upcoming patch, supposedly dropping some time this week. shouldnt be too hard to squeeze it into the build.

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cradzilla wrote:

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Graiaule wrote:

Oh lol wat? Okay arctic armor time!

Lol no it doesn't.

check out chris' latest reddit post. arctic armor will be granting freeze immunity in an upcoming patch, supposedly dropping some time this week. shouldnt be too hard to squeeze it into the build.

Is it worth tho? 1 flask will be good enough to fix freeze problem after patch anyways.

Edit. And you don't even need to use it yourself

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za6i9ka wrote:

Is it worth tho? 1 flask will be good enough to fix freeze problem after patch anyways.

Edit. And you don't even need to use it yourself

nothing wrong with having more choices. you can go flask and others can go aura.

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cradzilla wrote:

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za6i9ka wrote:

Is it worth tho? 1 flask will be good enough to fix freeze problem after patch anyways.

Edit. And you don't even need to use it yourself

nothing wrong with having more choices. you can go flask and others can go aura.

No one said its wrong. I thought if it was worth it since we're always on the move so aren't getting dmg reduction, its basically 25% mana reserved vs 1 flask slot if not just 1 flask suffix (and thats after all flasks nerfs).

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za6i9ka wrote:

No one said its wrong. I thought if it was worth it since we're always on the move so aren't getting dmg reduction, its basically 25% mana reserved vs 1 flask slot if not just 1 flask suffix (and thats after all flasks nerfs).

i think having complete immunity is better than relying on a flask even with the cost of mana reservation. you clearly prefer the latter and thats fine too.
didnt mean wrong in the sense that its 'right or wrong', just that its always a good thing to have extra choices available.

Would be interesting if the flasks then give a benefit. As i see now we dont need flask slot but need mana. So Aura will cost mana, flask will not affect us.

At the moment flask is useless, as if only 1 sec freeze imunity its a joke.

We can respec char if the mana costs of icestorm will be reduced.

At a side note. i cant play so much this time but the mechanik is the same like ultimatum.
With wi i can clear the contend in a good way (only act 7 now) but every 3 or 4 expedition without warning i get oneshot and dont know why. The chests seems similar the buffs also. But the one expedition all fine, the other i get oneshot multiple times if i run back and try to kill. Mostly offscreen as i run to the expedition field and whoop i am dead.

Crazy shit.

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ichbinwerichbi wrote:

Would be interesting if the flasks then give a benefit. As i see now we dont need flask slot but need mana. So Aura will cost mana, flask will not affect us.

At the moment flask is useless, as if only 1 sec freeze imunity its a joke.

We can respec char if the mana costs of icestorm will be reduced.

At a side note. i cant play so much this time but the mechanik is the same like ultimatum.
With wi i can clear the contend in a good way (only act 7 now) but every 3 or 4 expedition without warning i get oneshot and dont know why. The chests seems similar the buffs also. But the one expedition all fine, the other i get oneshot multiple times if i run back and try to kill. Mostly offscreen as i run to the expedition field and whoop i am dead.

Crazy shit.

Flask works just fine in maps, never died to being frozen after getting it. There was some issue with some stuff overwriting flask and ppl dying, i didn't have that problem tho.

@Viktranka
Ty for explaining the whole thing :)

OK, so GGG is backing off and un-nerfing things they nerfed. Even with some fluff on top.

Mana multipliers are getting un-nerfed. This means we most likely won't need Inspiration anymore. And maybe not even Clarity or Dreamer. Nice!

BTW, with 5S staff you don't need Inspiration already. I don't have 6S yet, but with 5S I outregen any mana spent easily.

Flasks will give 4 sec of immunity. For us this mostly means curses. Nice. With auto-triggered flasks we can run curse maps again easily. Moreover, the curse mods on maps will no longer have increased effect, they will be just basic curses.

Arctic Armour will grant freeze immunity! That's the final thing Ascendant was lacking! AA will be making a comeback, together with facetanking bosses. I think we'll need to use Enlighten to add it while keeping everything else. But we have a free gem slot from moving AS to the staff anyway.

Not sure when all that goes live, probably next week. So just hang on for a few more days and then this build will be even better than before 3.15.

Started the league late so I just reached maps, I haven't played this build since the elementalist and then marauder days, acts are still a breeze with this and the uniques and I had no mana issues while leveling, even dropping inspiration in the 5 sockets so I started running HOI, but since AA is getting freeze immunity it might be a good idea to put it instead of HOI. When I'm finally geared (missing body and cyclopean wtf 12% atts for 28 chaos is expensive as hell) I'll try facetanking bosses again.

Great all round build!