[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Ziiyo wrote:

Added:

Assuming we have 3000 mana (Should have more).

If we link Awakened Blasphemy Support + 3 curses + Disciple + lv 4 Enlighten. we have -690 Mana.

We then take 6 passive points on the tree and get sovereignty and the mana reduced node near CI. That takes us to 18% reduced mana and now our mana is -75.

We then take the 20% lab enchant for discipline and we have +75 mana and are in the 'green'

Note:
Awakened Blasphemy Support has a mana reservation of 34% at gem level 1 for each hex curse linked to it, lowered by 1% every two levels (compared to the 35% reservation of Blasphemy Support). At 20% gem quality linked hex curse skills also gain 1 additional level.

This means that we will be above 75 mana as 3 curses are attached in the 6 link to the Awakened Blasphemy.

...sooo with all that said, there are no other auras added i.e. aspect. You can argue that the curses can easily act as a defensive layer BUT are you wanting to go through losing 6 passive points and getting disc helm enchant with max level awakened gem, just to get this going.

Seems like a headache xD

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Cjin wrote:

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Ziiyo wrote:

Added:

Assuming we have 3000 mana (Should have more).

If we link Awakened Blasphemy Support + 3 curses + Disciple + lv 4 Enlighten. we have -690 Mana.

We then take 6 passive points on the tree and get sovereignty and the mana reduced node near CI. That takes us to 18% reduced mana and now our mana is -75.

We then take the 20% lab enchant for discipline and we have +75 mana and are in the 'green'

Note:
Awakened Blasphemy Support has a mana reservation of 34% at gem level 1 for each hex curse linked to it, lowered by 1% every two levels (compared to the 35% reservation of Blasphemy Support). At 20% gem quality linked hex curse skills also gain 1 additional level.

This means that we will be above 75 mana as 3 curses are attached in the 6 link to the Awakened Blasphemy.

...sooo with all that said, there are no other auras added i.e. aspect. You can argue that the curses can easily act as a defensive layer BUT are you wanting to go through losing 6 passive points and getting disc helm enchant with max level awakened gem, just to get this going.

Seems like a headache xD

It is even worse than that. You need to spend another 3 passive points or annoinment slot to get Whispers of Doom to be able to place 3 curses.

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Ziiyo wrote:

Very true!

I actually think @petrus is onto something!

Vortex - Bonechill - Awakened Hextouch + 3 curses seems perfect. You can also run a different support until you get the hextouch.

Edit: I cannot math...

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Breken wrote:

I don't think Vortex is a good way to spread curses. It has a 1.8 second cooldown and it's limited to the area around you. Ball lighting hits a LOT, and travels cursing a lot more overall. Ball lightning also has great synergy with ES gained on hit Watcher's eyes. by all means give it a shot, but I don't think it will feel as good as ball lightning.

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Cjin wrote:

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Ziiyo wrote:

Added:

Assuming we have 3000 mana (Should have more).

If we link Awakened Blasphemy Support + 3 curses + Disciple + lv 4 Enlighten. we have -690 Mana.

We then take 6 passive points on the tree and get sovereignty and the mana reduced node near CI. That takes us to 18% reduced mana and now our mana is -75.

We then take the 20% lab enchant for discipline and we have +75 mana and are in the 'green'

Note:
Awakened Blasphemy Support has a mana reservation of 34% at gem level 1 for each hex curse linked to it, lowered by 1% every two levels (compared to the 35% reservation of Blasphemy Support). At 20% gem quality linked hex curse skills also gain 1 additional level.

This means that we will be above 75 mana as 3 curses are attached in the 6 link to the Awakened Blasphemy.

...sooo with all that said, there are no other auras added i.e. aspect. You can argue that the curses can easily act as a defensive layer BUT are you wanting to go through losing 6 passive points and getting disc helm enchant with max level awakened gem, just to get this going.

Seems like a headache xD

It is even worse than that. You need to spend another 3 passive points or annoinment slot to get Whispers of Doom to be able to place 3 curses.

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baal6969 wrote:

I think I can take Whispers of Doom and Charisma as my anointments, maybe buy some int jewels with 1% reduce corruption and get more reduction nodes on clusters instead.

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baal6969 wrote:

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Cjin wrote:

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Ziiyo wrote:

Added:

Assuming we have 3000 mana (Should have more).

If we link Awakened Blasphemy Support + 3 curses + Disciple + lv 4 Enlighten. we have -690 Mana.

We then take 6 passive points on the tree and get sovereignty and the mana reduced node near CI. That takes us to 18% reduced mana and now our mana is -75.

We then take the 20% lab enchant for discipline and we have +75 mana and are in the 'green'

Note:
Awakened Blasphemy Support has a mana reservation of 34% at gem level 1 for each hex curse linked to it, lowered by 1% every two levels (compared to the 35% reservation of Blasphemy Support). At 20% gem quality linked hex curse skills also gain 1 additional level.

This means that we will be above 75 mana as 3 curses are attached in the 6 link to the Awakened Blasphemy.

...sooo with all that said, there are no other auras added i.e. aspect. You can argue that the curses can easily act as a defensive layer BUT are you wanting to go through losing 6 passive points and getting disc helm enchant with max level awakened gem, just to get this going.

Seems like a headache xD

It is even worse than that. You need to spend another 3 passive points or annoinment slot to get Whispers of Doom to be able to place 3 curses.

Thanks for the maths :D

I spent whole day on PoB and realized myself it will be hard. However there are always workarounds. I still think that cursing everything around before you get hit is too important to miss out, because you are rolling into the pack and if everyone is slowed, weakened and have reduced resistances, also everyone will have 40% to proc Profane Bloom it is just a lot better than occasionally cursing some monsters with curse on hit setup after you already got hit. Probably will have to go for 2 curses on blasphemy at the league start, but later on there are more options than wasting a lot of points on the tree. I think I can take Whispers of Doom and Charisma as my anointments, maybe buy some int jewels with 1% reduce corruption and get more reduction nodes on clusters instead. Even if I lose a few hundereds of int in the end, I don't think that it will matter that much when you can reach ~2500 int anyway. What do you think will matter more in the end game? 10% of your damage (on paper) or reliable cursing which will also work on bosses, which will also improve your survivability, but also clearspeed (faster and more monsters cursed with frostbite and more profane bloom procs).

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baal6969 wrote:

Thanks for the maths :D

I spent whole day on PoB and realized myself it will be hard. However there are always workarounds. I still think that cursing everything around before you get hit is too important to miss out, because you are rolling into the pack and if everyone is slowed, weakened and have reduced resistances, also everyone will have 40% to proc Profane Bloom it is just a lot better than occasionally cursing some monsters with curse on hit setup after you already got hit. Probably will have to go for 2 curses on blasphemy at the league start, but later on there are more options than wasting a lot of points on the tree. I think I can take Whispers of Doom and Charisma as my anointments, maybe buy some int jewels with 1% reduce corruption and get more reduction nodes on clusters instead. Even if I lose a few hundereds of int in the end, I don't think that it will matter that much when you can reach ~2500 int anyway. What do you think will matter more in the end game? 10% of your damage (on paper) or reliable cursing which will also work on bosses, which will also improve your survivability, but also clearspeed (faster and more monsters cursed with frostbite and more profane bloom procs).

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phantom_god wrote:

do ppl forget we run hatred dicsipline and aspect? you want to give up on

3 auras that 1 of them is a huge energy shield to run blasphmy? dont think its worth it

and ball lightning travel really really far like really far so i dont think there will be any issue with it