[3.20] Ice Dancing Queen - Icestorm/Cyclone/CI - Viable For Everything

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Tsplodey wrote:

I changed my tree to be more like yours Akisailent (I had to keep Holy Dominion and I don't have the levels/cash to get extra large clusters) and geez what a huge improvement. I gained ~600 ES and something like 30k damage per hit vs Sirus.

Really can't wait for them to fix the bloody Heists so I can get income for the expensive stuff.

Happy it helped you! Also whoever tries my same passive tree, keep in mind that I am min maxing it, so if you dont have exact same jewels etc, there is probably a better optimisation for you, like swaping few points here and there or shifting some jewels, so dont just copy/paste my tree.

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phantom_god wrote:

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Akisailent wrote:

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Hemzokuken wrote:

Thanks man...good to have someone to bounce ideas off.

I wonder why zealotry isn't mentioned on page 1 at all?

What if we got 4 large clusters with cold to the core instead of the 64 int? Only spending 3 points on each large other than the split personalities one??

You could do it, but we need sockets to get more int, so basicly you trading cold to the core + another notable for a lot of flat int from passive, which is bad for us as we scale pretty much everything from int. Zealotry is not mentioned bcs hatred is already mentioned, to get both + discpline you already need to min max and do some shenanigans

any chance you help me understand how to improve my progress/tree?

i feel stuck in place :s

do i want 10% attruibte and 14% int/over 14% int and 1% dmg per 15 int

Attributes and int %, 1%dmg per 15 int is a nice bonus but you want as much int as you can. If I got time i will take a look at your tree later

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Akisailent wrote:

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Tsplodey wrote:

I changed my tree to be more like yours Akisailent (I had to keep Holy Dominion and I don't have the levels/cash to get extra large clusters) and geez what a huge improvement. I gained ~600 ES and something like 30k damage per hit vs Sirus.

Really can't wait for them to fix the bloody Heists so I can get income for the expensive stuff.

Happy it helped you! Also whoever tries my same passive tree, keep in mind that I am min maxing it, so if you dont have exact same jewels etc, there is probably a better optimisation for you, like swaping few points here and there or shifting some jewels, so dont just copy/paste my tree.

Thread of Hope was the big one for me. First time playing Scion so I'm not thinking of all the unique jewels that she can benefit from more than any other class.

You could do it, but we need sockets to get more int, so basicly you trading cold to the core + another notable for a lot of flat int from passive, which is bad for us as we scale pretty much everything from int. Zealotry is not mentioned bcs hatred is already mentioned, to get both + discpline you already need to min max and do some shenanigans[/quote]

any chance you help me understand how to improve my progress/tree?

i feel stuck in place :s

do i want 10% attruibte and 14% int/over 14% int and 1% dmg per 15 int[/quote]

Attributes and int %, 1%dmg per 15 int is a nice bonus but you want as much int as you can. If I got time i will take a look at your tree later [/quote]

tyvm and i will look into ur tree and try to fix it like urs

its mostly my gear tbh

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You could do it, but we need sockets to get more int, so basicly you trading cold to the core + another notable for a lot of flat int from passive, which is bad for us as we scale pretty much everything from int. Zealotry is not mentioned bcs hatred is already mentioned, to get both + discpline you already need to min max and do some shenanigans[/quote]

any chance you help me understand how to improve my progress/tree?

i feel stuck in place :s

do i want 10% attruibte and 14% int/over 14% int and 1% dmg per 15 int[/quote]

Attributes and int %, 1%dmg per 15 int is a nice bonus but you want as much int as you can. If I got time i will take a look at your tree later [/quote]

and sorry for asking but how the fuck did u make so much currency? its like watching fastasfuck account holy shit

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any chance you help me understand how to improve my progress/tree?

i feel stuck in place :s

do i want 10% attruibte and 14% int/over 14% int and 1% dmg per 15 int

Attributes and int %, 1%dmg per 15 int is a nice bonus but you want as much int as you can. If I got time i will take a look at your tree later

and sorry for asking but how the fuck did u make so much currency? its like watching fastasfuck account holy shit

Selling stuff i find and converting other currency to caos/exalts. Like I sell items for 3c and over (here experience really helps to distinguish between junk itemsor expensive), run maps or heists, and once I have enough fus/jewel/chromes etc to exchange for 1 ex I do it, and so on. I made probably half of my currency just by selling fuses and jewelers orbs. I was also lucky by droping a 14ex circle of fear ring with 8%max life implicit roll. thats basicly it

Tbh not dropping too much flat int to get that extra damage. It's only an extra 5 points for a 4th cold to the core and we could only spend 2 points on second and third cluster to get cold to the core too (3 if you want a single cluster).

That's 11 points minimum to get 4 X cold to the core. Basically instead of getting second noteable passive on 2 cluster we are choosing a 4th cold to the core which I think is worth it. (Numbers prove it on PoB)

As for using zealotry as well I think it definitely helps once you're at a stage you can min/max a little.

i feel stuck in place :s

do i want 10% attruibte and 14% int/over 14% int and 1% dmg per 15 int[/quote]

Attributes and int %, 1%dmg per 15 int is a nice bonus but you want as much int as you can. If I got time i will take a look at your tree later [/quote]


Selling stuff i find and converting other currency to caos/exalts. Like I sell items for 3c and over (here experience really helps to distinguish between junk itemsor expensive), run maps or heists, and once I have enough fus/jewel/chromes etc to exchange for 1 ex I do it, and so on. I made probably half of my currency just by selling fuses and jewelers orbs. I was also lucky by droping a 14ex circle of fear ring with 8%max life implicit roll. thats basicly it[/quote]

insane really :o i will try to do it as well i guess :P

the problom is i got 7 exlt siting in the bank with no clue where to go from there lol

so does 10% increased attribue with 14% increased int is better?

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Hemzokuken wrote:

Tbh not dropping too much flat int to get that extra damage. It's only an extra 5 points for a 4th cold to the core and we could only spend 2 points on second and third cluster to get cold to the core too (3 if you want a single cluster).

That's 11 points minimum to get 4 X cold to the core. Basically instead of getting second noteable passive on 2 cluster we are choosing a 4th cold to the core which I think is worth it. (Numbers prove it on PoB)

As for using zealotry as well I think it definitely helps once you're at a stage you can min/max a little.

found helm with 15% reduce to hatred after 30 essence all is pure shit :s

Ok so currently I have 3364 int and not using the brute force jewel in bottom left cluster means we have 40 extra strength to hit higher immortal call lvl by not modding strength on anything.

Imported my tree to POB fork and my shaper dps with only inspiration ticked in config using 2 large clusters only is 124k icestorm average dps.

Third cluster just to cttc makes it 141k dps.

Fourth cluster makes it 160k dps.

Using zealotry on top of all this gives a dps of 184k dps.

Would love to see other people's opinions of the above.

I tested on your tree too Akis_heist and it bumps up dps by 10% dropping one brute force jewel and making it a cttc large cluster with the cost of 2 more points.