[3.11]QUEEN OF NECROMANCY - STRONGEST ZOMBIES EVER? 55M+ DPS 7K+ LIFE MAX BLOCK 90% CHAOS RES

Sorry to keep flooding the page, but would getting commander of darkness ascendancy instead of bone barrier hurt a lot? I'm in a bit of a struggle with resists at the moment since an unset ring with high str and two resists is quite expensive.

here's my chest. I really cant manage to make the 1 unlinked socket green while having the rest 3r 2b

anyone else has that issue? with that said idk where to put desecrate anymore
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dpham99 wrote:
Sorry to keep flooding the page, but would getting commander of darkness ascendancy instead of bone barrier hurt a lot? I'm in a bit of a struggle with resists at the moment since an unset ring with high str and two resists is quite expensive.


You can, im still using commander of darkness instead of bone barrier, im going to switch after i can fit purity of element in my setup
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Qlidascope wrote:
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zsirfoka wrote:
If you are using Femurs and dont have the fully upgraded bow with +1 level, +2 support level, using deathmark gives more damage without deathmarked target than a lvl3 empower and the same as a lvl4 (more with deathmark buff). So using empower is only good if you have the bow buffing the zombie levels.

I just killed Sirus on awaken lvl6 deathless and I must say without deathmark it was a pain in the ass on akaken 4 as minions were clueless when sirus teleported everywhere.


So far strong build yet not so cheap as I expected also not so fast clear as slammers. But the single target is over the top.


Deathmark could be very interesting to use on the femur on the budget since you do need single target dps while running it!

When doing sirus you really wanna make your zombies know what they do by summoning skellies on sirus, it can be quite hard to get right early on.

How much did you end up spending on the early build? I myself barely used anything, but it could be due to good rares dropping early on.


Spent most money on hunter belt with attribute. Spent like 400 alts and couldnt get a 10+% attribute on belt(IL75+) and cyclo was really really expensive in the early league. Astramentis is pretty pricy too in the 1st 2 weeks. 6links are always expensive so i dont mention them. Transition to the rich build doesn't worth me the effort and time though, crafting all the jewels, 10ex bow, 10ex body armor, timeless jewels are very expensive and i dont have experience in the juicy ones. If i can kill aw8 serious I dont need more.
As a budget you can get running sirus with like 2-3ex. getting 1k strength sucks as astramentis is expensive, influenced items doesnt exist in the 1st week or so. The build is solid though and i'm a huge fan of block builds.


Fun fact, you can use 2 deathmark at once. You have 2 deathmarks on skill tab but they are the same, if you mark a target, all skills linked to ANY deathmark gem gets the deathmarked target bonus damage and focus.
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Summoner wrote:


IF you want to reduce the number of buttons you need to mash using a Queen's Escape or crafting a +1/+2 melee weapon instead of a bow, you can use Cyclone and Cast while channelling to trigger desecrate and an offering (or two offerings, but would need a separate corpse source for boss fights unless you run it in your chest).

You'll lose a bit of min/maxed power this way (2 skill gems to reduce the number of buttons you need to mash by 1), and not being able to abuse a caster bow to get extra stats from a quiver.

Alternately you could play around with triggered wands; which would get 2 gem slots back but cost you the +1/2 from your weapon. Examples of this can be seen on the King of Summoners thread.

Spending anything on automation is going to cut down your level of min/maxing. This is just the nature of the game. Unless you're goal is to zoom zoom through the hardest content in the game, you don't need to be 100% min-maxed to make strong builds work though.

If you really want to reduce your button count, you might want to take a look at Wrecker of Days Build Guides. His Slow-Mo Zombies build (named for using temp chains/enfeeble to slow enemies down), is designed for using at most 3 buttons for active skills.



Is it really that big of a DPS loss though ?



with 21 corrupt Zombie
Raise Zombie Gem lvl28(30) +4 weapons, +3 Empower Gem (30With Ascendancy)
Bow puts us at same thing with empower

Multistrike Gem level 20. vs 23 with Bow
Loss of 2% melee attack Speed and 1% Attack Damage

melee physical damage Gem level 20vs23
3% extra Damage with Bow.

Brutality - Gem level 20vs23
3% More damage with Bow

Impale support Gem level 20vs23
5% Impale effect 2% dmg with Bow


Overall, 9% dmg, 2% Attack Speed. 5% impale effect More with Bow Over 2x Wands.

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Run Trigger socketed spell Desecrate/Offering/Curse

Vulnerability will give...39% Increased Physical Damage
or take punishment for -20% physical damage reduction on Target.

between Spamming skele/Flame Dash. Along with does Bone Barrier Trigger the wand ? It should be easy upkeep auto cast.


Yes you lose Quiver, but im not sold on BreathTaker Gloves as vs Uber Elder/Sirus Do they gain us much ? Ive never had issue mapping to really need extra help there. Maybe for Delirium every now and then ?

Last edited by SPYDER680 on Jun 29, 2020, 1:16:23 PM
Try using merveil's retainer as 4th Spectre. That tentackle casts vulnerability, it's pretty sweet.
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SPYDER680 wrote:
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Summoner wrote:


IF you want to reduce the number of buttons you need to mash using a Queen's Escape or crafting a +1/+2 melee weapon instead of a bow, you can use Cyclone and Cast while channelling to trigger desecrate and an offering (or two offerings, but would need a separate corpse source for boss fights unless you run it in your chest).

You'll lose a bit of min/maxed power this way (2 skill gems to reduce the number of buttons you need to mash by 1), and not being able to abuse a caster bow to get extra stats from a quiver.

Alternately you could play around with triggered wands; which would get 2 gem slots back but cost you the +1/2 from your weapon. Examples of this can be seen on the King of Summoners thread.

Spending anything on automation is going to cut down your level of min/maxing. This is just the nature of the game. Unless you're goal is to zoom zoom through the hardest content in the game, you don't need to be 100% min-maxed to make strong builds work though.

If you really want to reduce your button count, you might want to take a look at Wrecker of Days Build Guides. His Slow-Mo Zombies build (named for using temp chains/enfeeble to slow enemies down), is designed for using at most 3 buttons for active skills.



Is it really that big of a DPS loss though ?



with 21 corrupt Zombie
Raise Zombie Gem lvl28(30) +4 weapons, +3 Empower Gem (30With Ascendancy)
Bow puts us at same thing with empower

Multistrike Gem level 20. vs 23 with Bow
Loss of 2% melee attack Speed and 1% Attack Damage

melee physical damage Gem level 20vs23
3% extra Damage with Bow.

Brutality - Gem level 20vs23
3% More damage with Bow

Impale support Gem level 20vs23
5% Impale effect 2% dmg with Bow


Overall, 9% dmg, 2% Attack Speed. 5% impale effect More with Bow Over 2x Wands.

vs

Run Trigger socketed spell Desecrate/Offering/Curse

Vulnerability will give...39% Increased Physical Damage
or take punishment for -20% physical damage reduction on Target.

between Spamming skele/Flame Dash. Along with does Bone Barrier Trigger the wand ? It should be easy upkeep auto cast.


Yes you lose Quiver, but im not sold on BreathTaker Gloves as vs Uber Elder/Sirus Do they gain us much ? Ive never had issue mapping to really need extra help there. Maybe for Delirium every now and then ?



Your biggest loss vs a fully min/maxed build isn't directly in the attack skill, but that you lose 3 sockets to run other things
* 1 from no-quiver
* 1 from cyclone
* 1 for cast while channeling.

For a build with more modest gear, that's partially countered by:
* Not having a bow yet anyway and thus no quiver socket.
* Not being able to run your last aura and not needing that socket.
* Not needing Enlighten (or Saquals Nest, or the Cluster Gems) to run your other auras.

If your gear is otherwise fully maxed out, being unable to run Pride means you're short a 20-40% more multiplier on your DPS; in addition to whatever other gem you give up because you don't have a quiver.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, weighing all things in the balance of reason?
Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful?
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Njaku wrote:

here's my chest. I really cant manage to make the 1 unlinked socket green while having the rest 3r 2b

anyone else has that issue? with that said idk where to put desecrate anymore


Use the seedcraft for colors until you hit the green socket in the first or last slot. Then use the 5 - link seed recipe, to link either the first 5 or last 5 sockets. Worked for me at least.
Tier 1 Color Seed: https://poedb.tw/us/Wild_Thornwolf_Seed
Tier 1 Link Seed: https://poedb.tw/us/Primal_Feasting_Horror_Seed

Last edited by Youhaveavirus on Jun 29, 2020, 2:42:13 PM
Wondering what the next steps are for me damage wise. Currently got lucky and had a bottled faith drop in a zana cortex and bought a bow a nice upgrade from a 5 link femur. What do I go for next? I have about 7 ex to spend. Also using budget AG set up.

Last edited by Laere on Jun 29, 2020, 2:45:53 PM
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Qlidascope wrote:


it depends on what you want to use it for, the endgame build has one on the templar jewel socket to pick up the aura cluster and save a point aswell as getting dicipline and trainig. (you want to use a large for that).

However you can also use as medium one in the north witch socket and pick up ravenous horde, heart and soul aswell as cruel preperation.


Ahhh Thank you for the help!
Last edited by dpham99 on Jun 29, 2020, 2:53:56 PM

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