[3.9] Physical Conversion Bowyer | Wander [TS/LA/IS + Barrage] [KB + Power Siphon] [All Content]

Has anyone playing the Int stacking build looked into using elegant hubris? I found some 80% lightning with attack and crit multi by the harrier scion wheel, its ~15% dps for 8 points to get, with 3 other possible 3 point nodes that could roll crit multi/lightning/ES per power charge/frenzy on hit (if not on rings) and couldn't really work out what would be worth to drop so just wondering if anyone else was experimenting and came up with something that works.
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Has anyone playing the Int stacking build looked into using elegant hubris?


you are probably better off just getting a lethal pride. The problem with the timeless jewels is that we are spread quite thin on the tree so each timeless jewel only hits 2-3 notables (without changing the tree too much). A lethal pride with just intimidate on hit and 5% double damage on a nodes would be a nice upgrade over a rare jewel, and you can place it near instability or faith and steel. Problem with Elegant hubris is that it can remove a ton of traveling int nodes, and we are int stacking.

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spent like 50 divines rolling this

which had double damage on divine judgement and intimidate on hit on overcharged. Was trying to find intimidate on hit + anything additional on the jewel socket near overcharge or instability or melding and this was the best one I could get in 50 divines. I probably would not recommend this unless you have extra currency to dump on rolling these lethal prides :) I did hit single intimidate with nothing else useful maybe 2-3 times? so it is still better than most 4 mod jewels.

Took out force of nature cluster to take prism weave manually so I can anoint divine judgement. Overall gained ~ 8% damage at a cost of ~ 100 es, my tree probably looks weird now. Might drop the fertile mind near heartseeker since it is only converting 40 dex to int.
Last edited by Stealthyy on Jan 4, 2020, 12:53:56 PM
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Stealthyy wrote:
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Has anyone playing the Int stacking build looked into using elegant hubris?


you are probably better off just getting a lethal pride. The problem with the timeless jewels is that we are spread quite thin on the tree so each timeless jewel only hits 2-3 notables (without changing the tree too much). A lethal pride with just intimidate on hit and 5% double damage on a nodes would be a nice upgrade over a rare jewel, and you can place it near instability or faith and steel. Problem with Elegant hubris is that it can remove a ton of traveling int nodes, and we are int stacking.


Right, the thing that gave me the idea of a Hubris was from thinking about double damage on Lethal pride (and fill out strength opening a suffix somewhere) but also realized the only socket with multiple nodes taken nearby is where a fertile mind went.

I'll revisit the Lethal pride idea and see what I can hit, thanks.
Last edited by A_Mule on Jan 4, 2020, 11:03:42 AM
Playing the Int stacking Wander right now. Going good so far. Almost had Sirus down too, was pretty easy to get him down to 10% honestly but I fucked up some storms and got trapped on the stairs 2 times because I fucked up the storms before.

Invested a good amount of Ex now and I don't really know where to go further with my equip. Probably better Helm, Body and Wand but that is getting REALLY expensive and doesn't help with survivability which I struggle the most with.
Sometimes the ES goes down and I have no means how to recover it at that moment.

Anyone got any ideas?
Thanks for a great guide! Im trying to follow the Phys bow build the best i can with a limited budget...

Under the Gear section > Body Armour you state that we can generate Power Charges hence we skip Farrul. How do you generate power charges?

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Auras
Discipline - Wrath - Precision
I am using precision just because I have a watchers, you may want to use HOI/HOT instead, and link with enlighten if the mana is too much.
Also consider skitterbots for shock (instead of wrath)

If you use HoI/HoT, even with Enlighten 4 you only got 63 mana left. I don't think that will work out
We're close to some reduced mana reserved nodes on the tree though but I don't know if that's worth it. I can't find any nodes that make us lose less damage over what HoI/HoT would give.
Last edited by Tadian on Jan 4, 2020, 4:33:42 PM
Shout out to whoever it was that posted using Blood of the Karui for Sirus. I'd forgotten that flask existed and boy did it carry its weight during that fight. Never really occurred to me how fast the recovery rate could get with all the Pathfinder flask stuff.
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Tadian wrote:

If you use HoI/HoT, even with Enlighten 4 you only got 63 mana left. I don't think that will work out
We're close to some reduced mana reserved nodes on the tree though but I don't know if that's worth it. I can't find any nodes that make us lose less damage over what HoI/HoT would give.



can just take the 1 reduced mana node near ci, and be at 120 mana.
Last edited by Stealthyy on Jan 4, 2020, 8:08:53 PM
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Tadian wrote:
Playing the Int stacking Wander right now. Going good so far. Almost had Sirus down too, was pretty easy to get him down to 10% honestly but I fucked up some storms and got trapped on the stairs 2 times because I fucked up the storms before.

Invested a good amount of Ex now and I don't really know where to go further with my equip. Probably better Helm, Body and Wand but that is getting REALLY expensive and doesn't help with survivability which I struggle the most with.
Sometimes the ES goes down and I have no means how to recover it at that moment.

Anyone got any ideas?


your wand really needs work, its corrupted with 1-5 lightning, which is really bad, as the 1-6 roll is 10% more damage. You can just spam some dense fossils at the chest to get 600-700 es. What is your int? Scaling the int will scale your ES significantly. If you feel like you need more ES instead of damage, drop some damage nodes like force of nature, and take more es / jewel nodes and get % es jewels.
Last edited by Stealthyy on Jan 5, 2020, 12:46:15 AM
Hey there, currently playing this build and loving it.

Super smooth leveling and transitioning to a wander at around level 50 was smooth as butter and felt great.

Just getting into maps, pushed myself into t16s - they're a bit rippy - I'm not very well geared yet, just under 4k life, not where I'd like to be yet.

Anyway, I clear pretty fast, but my overall damage output is less than half of the DPS shown in the Cold Conversion Wander build guide. In perfect Scenario I'm at just about 1.8mil shaper dps, whereas with the build show, it is at 4m shaper dps without any jewels.

Any ideas where I can get more damage? Even when setting my gems to 20/20 it only goes up maybe 10% more damage. This is my current build - https://pastebin.com/hcsQpLF7

This is the build guide PoB sheet - note that I've removed the jewels from this - https://pastebin.com/WmL3T4ms

Current gear --
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~ Seph
Last edited by sephrinx on Jan 5, 2020, 3:26:50 AM

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