[3.6+3.7] Hasunics HoWA Moltenstrike CI Jugg | Uber Elder Farmer

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XulaZ wrote:
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Hasunic wrote:
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XulaZ wrote:
Thank you for the reply!!
One more thing...


Elemental focus gives more dps than multstrike? Even if we can't shock with it? Or is multstrike better?


For this build Elemental Focus and Damage On Full life adds exactly the same damage multiplier.

It's very hard for molten balls to effectively add shock.
The only thing that actually shock is the vessel of vinktar :)


Yea! But I mean the multiple strikes from multistrike doesn't make the skill dps higher than using elemental focus or damage full life?


No. Unless the attack rate is bad, then yes.

it's a matter of balance between attack rate and damage per hit.
[3.9]Hasunic's Toxic Rain Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2712106
[3.7]Voidforge Flicker Strike Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2532214
[3.7]Oni-Goroshi Fire Vaal Reave Zerker: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2583978
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Yea! But I mean the multiple strikes from multistrike doesn't make the skill dps higher than using elemental focus or damage full life? [/quote]

No. Unless the attack rate is bad, then yes.

it's a matter of balance between attack rate and damage per hit.[/quote]

Awwww didn't know that! Thank a lot for the info and tips!! Any attack rate I should aim? 0.3?


Yea! But I mean the multiple strikes from multistrike doesn't make the skill dps higher than using elemental focus or damage full life? [/quote]

No. Unless the attack rate is bad, then yes.

it's a matter of balance between attack rate and damage per hit.[/quote]

Awwww didn't know that! Thank a lot for the info and tips!! Any attack rate I should aim? 0.3?[/quote]

I have 6.7 with frenzy charges, killed recently, onslaught and vaal haste.
it feels quite smooth.
[3.9]Hasunic's Toxic Rain Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2712106
[3.7]Voidforge Flicker Strike Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2532214
[3.7]Oni-Goroshi Fire Vaal Reave Zerker: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2583978
How is this build compared to the dual nebuloch molten strike one?
Why some people use the Ancestral Protector with Mult toten?

the AS doesnt stack...
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MrWay wrote:
How is this build compared to the dual nebuloch molten strike one?


It is better in all aspects if you ask me.
It has faster clear(leap slam is very slow compared to whirling blades) + Higher ES pool(Much easier to stack high numbers of ES) + More damage(I have 1.67 mio dps pr magma ball) + it is much cheaper(Getting very good Life On Hit rings can be very expensive + Nebulochs are expensive compared to HoWA + shield + 2 abyss tombfist is much more expensive than Shaper's touch)

The only place where Nebuloch might be better is delving deep due to life on hit, but this could be fixed by buying a +30 ES on hit watchers eye. Nebuloch is not better at delving than using a tripple curse occultist version of this build though, so....
[3.9]Hasunic's Toxic Rain Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2712106
[3.7]Voidforge Flicker Strike Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2532214
[3.7]Oni-Goroshi Fire Vaal Reave Zerker: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2583978
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XulaZ wrote:
Why some people use the Ancestral Protector with Mult toten?

the AS doesnt stack...


Because you get 3 totems and thus they take longer to die
[3.9]Hasunic's Toxic Rain Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2712106
[3.7]Voidforge Flicker Strike Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2532214
[3.7]Oni-Goroshi Fire Vaal Reave Zerker: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2583978
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Hasunic wrote:
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MrWay wrote:
How is this build compared to the dual nebuloch molten strike one?


It is better in all aspects if you ask me.
It has faster clear(leap slam is very slow compared to whirling blades) + Higher ES pool(Much easier to stack high numbers of ES) + More damage(I have 1.67 mio dps pr magma ball) + it is much cheaper(Getting very good Life On Hit rings can be very expensive + Nebulochs are expensive compared to HoWA + shield + 2 abyss tombfist is much more expensive than Shaper's touch)

The only place where Nebuloch might be better is delving deep due to life on hit, but this could be fixed by buying a +30 ES on hit watchers eye. Nebuloch is not better at delving than using a tripple curse occultist version of this build though, so....


Well i agree except, i think it definitely isn´t cheaper. The cheapest helmet with 300 es and molten strike enchant costs 24 ex....
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MrWay wrote:
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Hasunic wrote:
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MrWay wrote:
How is this build compared to the dual nebuloch molten strike one?


It is better in all aspects if you ask me.
It has faster clear(leap slam is very slow compared to whirling blades) + Higher ES pool(Much easier to stack high numbers of ES) + More damage(I have 1.67 mio dps pr magma ball) + it is much cheaper(Getting very good Life On Hit rings can be very expensive + Nebulochs are expensive compared to HoWA + shield + 2 abyss tombfist is much more expensive than Shaper's touch)

The only place where Nebuloch might be better is delving deep due to life on hit, but this could be fixed by buying a +30 ES on hit watchers eye. Nebuloch is not better at delving than using a tripple curse occultist version of this build though, so....


Well i agree except, i think it definitely isn´t cheaper. The cheapest helmet with 300 es and molten strike enchant costs 24 ex....


Cheapest random +2 molten strike non-unique cost 15 exalts.

You can buy a cheap hubris for 4 exalt with +1, which i killed uber elder with on hardcore :)
[3.9]Hasunic's Toxic Rain Trickster: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2712106
[3.7]Voidforge Flicker Strike Slayer: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2532214
[3.7]Oni-Goroshi Fire Vaal Reave Zerker: https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2583978
Very fun build, thanks.

After I leveled up my Scion to 100 I thought I'd give this a try. Deathless Uber Elder and Guardian tank vids:

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTLUHocB4ZiI612xZQpfXDYVUDinJ10Jj
Last edited by YT_HB on Feb 8, 2019, 1:52:45 PM

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