[3.6+3.7] Hasunics HoWA Moltenstrike CI Jugg | Uber Elder Farmer

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shanwu wrote:

Isnt Dual Wielding 2 Howa better then using a shield, considering the crazy dps a 2nd claw adds.

Dual Howa doesn't add crazy dps anymore. The only benefit it has is giving us ~30% inc ele attack damage and 10-12% increased int and dex. You're better off using a high es shield. The damage is crazy anyway, and with 10k+ es this build facetanks most things in the game.

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Karnivool wrote:

How much life leech do you think you need to get this running smoothly, or is it mainly coming from Vinktars?

Does life leech for energy shield occur during battle, or does energy shield only recharge outside of combat?

You get life leech from the chest as well :) You wont recharge energy shield while your blood rage is active, but energy shield regeneration and leech will always be active.
I do not feel like I have any leech issues.

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shanwu wrote:

Isnt Dual Wielding 2 Howa better then using a shield, considering the crazy dps a 2nd claw adds.

You lose so much defence that it does not outweigh the offence added.

I feel like I need to emphatize that the build is purely suggestive.

Always try to find out what works for you. If you think dual HoWA is more fun and better than using a shield, try it out! It is not like HoWA is expensive or that you are on hardcore.

If you want more defence and don't like the cwdt curse setup, try to add a enfeeble or something to the normal cwdt.

If you want blind, apply this to a ball lightning and put it in.

if you feel like life is not worth living without a portal inserted somewhere, find a room for it.

I am just saying, I have experimented with many different aspects of the build, many different watcher's eyes and gem setups. This is what I like the most on softcore at the moment.

I am trying to make a more balanced version on hardcore at the moment, but it is hard work - Especially since I do not own very much currency on hardcore.


One last thing. My gear is not totaly minmaxed. I did not invest 75 exalts into the build buying the best corruption gears, the most expensive rings or stuff like that. The reason why I use discipline on my belt, is because I hit this corruption and it was useful for the build. I cannot argue whether it is better than wrath, and it is certaintly not better than strength/intelilgence.
My Rings I bought because they fit my resistances and gave the best possibly stats for like 20-30 c each.

One last thing I want to say. Is that think about what you buy. If you buy a 12% cyclopean coil with +4% intelligence for 5 exalts, wouldn't you be better off buying a 15% for 30 c?

Please use as reference and try to get like 6.3+ attack rate with onslaught, frenzy charges, blood rage and something killed recently. This realy makes the build feel smooth and more safe (faster whirling blades movement)

For a wise oak, does it matter in which order the flasks are, if without them I have the greatest resistance to lightning? I apologize for my English, I hope you understand me...

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MoyaOborona wrote:

For a wise oak, does it matter in which order the flasks are, if without them I have the greatest resistance to lightning? I apologize for my English, I hope you understand me...

Not to my knowledge.

But you should overcap your lightning resistance compared to the others, so you can settle with using sulphur, atziri's promise and wise oak flasks when your vessel of vinktar are out of charges :)

Great build by the way.

I made a bit of an alternative tree that paths through the duelist area down to point blank and use pure talent for the +25 attrib and 1% leech from attacks. Primarily because I use this:



and not the IH chest.

That path gives a bit more DPS at the expense of ES but with that chest I have over 16k ES anyway so it doesnt really matter.

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Hasunic wrote:

Please use as reference and try to get like 6.3+ attack rate with onslaught, frenzy charges, blood rage and something killed recently. This realy makes the build feel smooth and more safe (faster whirling blades movement)

I dont understand your above quote. How do you get 6.3 atk speed without Multistrike? Even with all those buffs with AC its more like 4.5. Impossible to get to 6.3 as far as i can see...can you break it down?

Nice! If it works it works :)

I have something like 6.8 attack rate without multistrike with onslaught, frenzy charges and killed recently..
I have some attack speed jewels, attack speed corruption on gloves and 16% IAS from boots.

Otherwise it helps with local IAS on howa, but local lightning is also alot of damage, and since I have so much attack speed I choose to keep the corruption because I hit it.

https://pastebin.com/iinttNw9

Most recent PoB -> 5.8 attack rate without vaal haste and 6.62 attack rate with vaal haste. 1.67 mio dps pr magma ball

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Joksee wrote:

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shanwu wrote:

Isnt Dual Wielding 2 Howa better then using a shield, considering the crazy dps a 2nd claw adds.

Dual Howa doesn't add crazy dps anymore. The only benefit it has is giving us ~30% inc ele attack damage and 10-12% increased int and dex. You're better off using a high es shield. The damage is crazy anyway, and with 10k+ es this build facetanks most things in the game.

Thanks for clarifying :)