[3.6] The Blizz Sorc - Icestorm/Winter Orb CI Occultist - Viable For Everything

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Shock3r19711 wrote:
having some issues with mana.. im using the dicipline, herald of ice and artic armour. Im lvl 70 about to switch to CI. I still have the shaper node but is there any nodes I should be getting around now for mana regen? Or do I need to get some on a amulet or something?




Get the boot enchant “.4-.6% of Damage leeched as life and mana if you killed recently”. I’m running a 5 link with winter orb and have no issue. The mana should regenerate back to full instantly. You can find cheap boots for under 1-5 chaos.
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Shock3r19711 wrote:
Interesting never knew that. Just thought of stuff like that affected mana reservation. Guess its more noticeable in channeling skills?

Not really, its more noticeable in skills with heavy mana consumption :)

I mean, if anything, channeling skills are easier on mana consumption than their selfcasting counterparts.
Just try to remove CwC setup, and use icestorm as is with 6 support gems. You will be lucky if you even would be able to cast icestorm couple of times before running out of mana lol

Moreover channeling skills have way less base mana consumption, it makes it possible to completely turn mana cost into 0 by jewelery with elreon mod "-# to mana cost of skills". Selfcaster don't have such possibility, mana cost of 1 spell of 100+ mana is usual occurence for them.

CwC is messiah that grant us the way of using auras. Without it, you can forget about reserving mana... atleast not to extent of 95-99% how we doing it right now. Maybe 1 discipline, and heck, you can't afford anymore than that :)
Last edited by Med1umentor on Mar 13, 2019, 2:26:25 PM
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kyeelee wrote:
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Shock3r19711 wrote:
having some issues with mana.. im using the dicipline, herald of ice and artic armour. Im lvl 70 about to switch to CI. I still have the shaper node but is there any nodes I should be getting around now for mana regen? Or do I need to get some on a amulet or something?




Get the boot enchant “.4-.6% of Damage leeched as life and mana if you killed recently”. I’m running a 5 link with winter orb and have no issue. The mana should regenerate back to full instantly. You can find cheap boots for under 1-5 chaos.

Nah, don't use crappy boots just for the enchant. Get your normal boots enchanted. It's only 1/15 chance, and you can run Cruel lab in no time.

And farming Uber Lab is actually very profitable, just boring. But when you have a motivation to do it - absolutely do it! Offerings cost 2c to buy, and you ALWAYS make more than 2c, plus often get your Offering back too. Of course, grab all keys and darkshrines along the way, use LabCompass.

I got my 'beginner CI' boots enchanted in about 10 runs and got a ton of maps, quality gems for sale and even found an exalt in a treasure chest :)
Last edited by Kelvynn on Mar 13, 2019, 2:41:27 PM
I feel like I die constantly even in t3-t4 maps, idk what im doing wrong.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/myBLUEjeansIStight/characters

Any advice would be awesome, thank you!
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I feel like I die constantly even in t3-t4 maps, idk what im doing wrong.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/myBLUEjeansIStight/characters

Any advice would be awesome, thank you!

I think it's more about playstyle, rather than anything else.

Your ES is quite lacking for 78 lvl 4.5k ES, but not so to die at t3 or t4.
To play WI build, you should understand that your attack need time to fall and kill enemies :)
Usually we just cast icestorm on the border of screen where we "expect" enemies.

I know what definitely help you. Watcher's eye with "20-30 energy shield gained with each enemy hit while affected by discipline".
It's costly, but for us it's almost invincibility in maps with high density. You don't even need to fear enemies, once they start to attck you, cwdt-ball lightning will activate and bring you into full ES in the same moment.
With it i usually can just AFK in the middle of the map, and don't even be afraid that i will be killed while i'm drink the tea in the kitchen :)
Last edited by Med1umentor on Mar 13, 2019, 2:50:13 PM
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I feel like I die constantly even in t3-t4 maps, idk what im doing wrong.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/myBLUEjeansIStight/characters

Any advice would be awesome, thank you!

You haven't completed Uber Lab yet and not immune to stun. Make sure to use the Brine King until you do, otherwise you'll get stunned a lot.

Check that resists are maxed.

You are using Frostbite instead of Enfeeble. You are not strong enough for that yet. Use Enfeeble.

Your Enfeeble is in the 2nd CWDT link. But you cannot have 2 curses. Remove Frostbite and put Enfeeble into the main CWDT link in the body armor.

Your Herald of Ice is linked to Bonechill. You don't have almost any mana to cast anything. Break that link or move HoI to another item. Only AA should be linked to Bonechill.

You are not using CWDT - IC.

You are not using Frost Bomb - Arcane Surge.

You are using some Vortex setup from some other build that's not good for this build.

Follow the guide, especially if this is your first time playing this build. Your custom modifications are the reason why you die in low tier maps.
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Med1umentor wrote:
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I feel like I die constantly even in t3-t4 maps, idk what im doing wrong.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/myBLUEjeansIStight/characters

Any advice would be awesome, thank you!

I think it's more about playstyle, rather than anything else.

Your ES is quite lacking for 78 lvl 4.5k ES, but not so to die at t3 or t4.
To play WI build, you should understand that your attack need time to fall and kill enemies :)
Usually we just cast icestorm on the border of screen where we "expect" enemies.

I know what definitely help you. Watcher's eye with "20-30 energy shield gained with each enemy hit while affected by discipline".
It's costly, but for us it's almost invincibility in maps with high density. You don't even need to fear enemies, once they start to attck you, cwdt-ball lightning will activate and bring you into full ES in the same moment.
With it i usually can just AFK in the middle of the map, and don't even be afraid that i will be killed while i'm drink the tea in the kitchen :)


Ah yeah that would be awesome. They're a little too pricey for me atm.
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Kelvynn wrote:
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I feel like I die constantly even in t3-t4 maps, idk what im doing wrong.

https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/myBLUEjeansIStight/characters

Any advice would be awesome, thank you!

You haven't completed Uber Lab yet and not immune to stun. Make sure to use the Brine King until you do, otherwise you'll get stunned a lot.

Check that resists are maxed.

You are using Frostbite instead of Enfeeble. You are not strong enough for that yet. Use Enfeeble.

Your Enfeeble is in the 2nd CWDT link. But you cannot have 2 curses. Remove Frostbite and put Enfeeble into the main CWDT link in the body armor.

Your Herald of Ice is linked to Bonechill. You don't have almost any mana to cast anything. Break that link or move HoI to another item. Only AA should be linked to Bonechill.

You are not using CWDT - IC.

You are not using Frost Bomb - Arcane Surge.

You are using some Vortex setup from some other build that's not good for this build.

Follow the guide, especially if this is your first time playing this build. Your custom modifications are the reason why you die in low tier maps.


Thanks for that, got that updated. I think I did it right.
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Thanks for that, got that updated. I think I did it right.

Yes, looks much better now.

Move Flame Dash to Frost Bomb - AS, it will trigger AS too.

Color 1 socket red in the gloves and put Vigilant Strike in it. 12s Fortify is nice against bosses and Syndicate goons.
So I assume that we can't do Atziri and Uber Atziri due to ele reflect, right?

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