[3.9] Cyclone Summoner - Heralds of Agony and Purity, Summon Holy Relic - League starter

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streamtOtO wrote:

Followed exactly this build guide, killed Sirius a8 lvl without dying,
made few adjastments with rings of nostalgia for chaos 75% resistance, and other things, but it's doesn't crucial. Tanked twice meteor in final phase :D
For sirius I equipped corruption blood immune and take patheon Shakali for poison immune, my tree has mana problems, so I got more mana regen flasks.


Here is POB: https://pastebin.com/3fwL3GEH

In general amazing build even without items and 6 links, good league starter.
For maps you can swap to haste and remove generosity etc.
Before I tried from youtube videos and with Decoy totem strats, but it's only made me to do more mistakes, we just literally cyclone around the Sirius all fight, and dodge his beams, I've even tanked his two walls around you, so I have more time to damage him(cause if you jumped from it, he will interupt it)

So I wanted to give your build a try. Love the increase in survival, however, clear speed on maps took a huge hit. Are you running something else outside of haste for maps? Seems like that HoA is slow to respond to me cycloning through stuff .

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Enos wrote:

So I wanted to give your build a try. Love the increase in survival, however, clear speed on maps took a huge hit. Are you running something else outside of haste for maps? Seems like that HoA is slow to respond to me cycloning through stuff .

Hard to say, changes in tree shouldn't effect the movespeed of crawler. From your character I can't see much differences with guide build. What have you changed? Usually you need Convocation, or trigger yourself or on CWDT 1 lvl setup, so minions will be telerported to you. He is slow to respond or low damage?

From your tree, I've got Thread of Hope at the top socket with Very Large Radius, because you need Spiritual Command. And without mana regen, you need .
For crawler DPS - curse Projectile Weakness.
About weapon - I think increase attack speed T1-T3 is mandatory, cause your % bonuses calculates from base weapon AS.

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daiverok wrote:

What i do wrong ?
Reached T14 maps.
Sometime can be oneshotted somehow.
Clearspeed is decent, but i start to lack damage on bosses or metamorphs, also loose a few research encounters in syndicate.
And i really don`t like the feeling of lacking damage. What i can do for massive improve (don`t tell me to do 6l - i`m working on it, accumulate fusings)
My gear now:

got 5 times instakilled by T12 metamorph
find out wft it was.
caustic ground - put insane amount of damage, die like in 0.3-4 sec

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daiverok wrote:

got 5 times instakilled by T12 metamorph
find out wft it was.
caustic ground - put insane amount of damage, die like in 0.3-4 sec

I created one time metamorph with each hit like 6-7k damage and hp/resists stronger than Sirius, couldn't kill him with 5 tries :D

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streamtOtO wrote:

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Enos wrote:

So I wanted to give your build a try. Love the increase in survival, however, clear speed on maps took a huge hit. Are you running something else outside of haste for maps? Seems like that HoA is slow to respond to me cycloning through stuff .

Hard to say, changes in tree shouldn't effect the movespeed of crawler. From your character I can't see much differences with guide build. What have you changed? Usually you need Convocation, or trigger yourself or on CWDT 1 lvl setup, so minions will be telerported to you. He is slow to respond or low damage?

From your tree, I've got Thread of Hope at the top socket with Very Large Radius, because you need Spiritual Command. And without mana regen, you need

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For crawler DPS - curse Projectile Weakness.
About weapon - I think increase attack speed T1-T3 is mandatory, cause your % bonuses calculates from base weapon AS.

Thanks a ton for the response. No damage is fine on the guy. He does move a bit slow to keep up. I'll try out convocation and give it a shot. Thanks again

how is this build in hc? is herald of purity actually needed for dps?

thanks

what delve depth did you reach with this build?

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Volokordin wrote:

what delve depth did you reach with this build?

No clue what the deepest delve was, I only went to 300 but it is an excellent delving build!

T16 Summon Holy Helic dies way too much. Whats a good replacement for it guys?

I'm thinking about buying a elder +minion gems/minion damage helmet for HoP and completely replace Holy Helic...

But with what?

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what delve depth did you reach with this build?

This build is ideal to farm delve at around depth 400. It gets annoying beyond depth 600 depending on your max hp. Because we don't have corpse destruction, we have to be able to tank all the nasty on death effects.

In principle, you only die from onehits or very fast consecutive big hits. So the depth you can comfortably reach is limited by your maximum hp, provided you got a good ammount of life gain on hit.

This league I tried to optimize my build for DPS and clearspeed and only have 8-9k hp depending on setup. I am at 615 and have no intention to go deeper.

In betrayal with 10.5k hp + 2k ES (with also ES gain on hit) i reached depth 1000+.

Generally, if you want to go to depth 1000, go hoag mana guardian (https://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-thread/2663126) instead. This build has far higher potential in terms of defenses.

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how is this build in hc? is herald of purity actually needed for dps?

I have never played hc myself, but I think the managuardian or juggernaut versions of hoag are cearly better for that. Compared to those build, life based guardian is somewhat fragile but can have much more dps.

Herald of purity allows you to get a lot of debuffs on enemies and buffs for hoag. In total, my hop setup buffs my hoag dps by 40%. With a helmet for it, it can easily reach 1M dps itself in addition. Even for clear it can be nice (on juiced maps with enough rares only).

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T16 Summon Holy Helic dies way too much. Whats a good replacement for it guys?

Desecrate - Spirit offering - CWDT setup. Also try to get -9% caos res to nearby enemies on your helmet if possible in addition to the other stuff.