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Using the MS calculator it looks like you are at 464k dps just right clicking, 665k dps with proper ancestral call positioning.
Seems like the dps is about right. I'm at T10 maps doing fine with 325k/450k dps.
edit - Noticed you didn't have onslaught checked. You might want to get that on a jewel or flask. Decent dps increase.
Also you don't have the Blade of Cunning wheel on passive tree. Adding both onslaught and Blade of Cunning wheel (3 points around the top) takes you to 537k/770k dps. Blade of Cunning is shown as 4 points around the bottom in the guide, but I'm not sure its worth it since we are point starved already.
For a 12-14 ex investment 600k dps is kind of laughable though, Sure its high life but I could get similar survivability and similar damage for a tenth of that cost with a different build so I'm just assuming I have something wrong in my build.
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Posted byCloudx05on Mar 26, 2019, 2:24:36 PM
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I seem to have low single target dps ( i struggle on red elser/ t-15, -16 boss havent tryed shapper yet) ,i Know i miss some items still but im wondering if i can increase the damage by going 2 Shanks? do the +2 projectile stack? i think im pretty tanky even withotu shield
I am strongly considering this as well. In POB I moved points into Dervish, Ambidexterity, and Blade Barrier, sacrificing the Defiance wheel and 2 jewel sockets and came out with dramatically higher dps, nearly double (IIRC, at work now) while maintaining 24% block and slightly lower life and only a 3% phys damage reduction drop, compared to 33% block with Lioneye equipped with Defiance.
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Posted bymaxvlaon Mar 26, 2019, 2:41:45 PM
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Why not point blank?
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I'm an idiot - didn't read the sword :P
Mess with the best, die like the rest. Last edited by Edzilla on Mar 26, 2019, 3:03:04 PM
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Posted byEdzillaon Mar 26, 2019, 2:56:36 PM
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Have almost all the components of this build but the damage is so low in comparison to the investment. Is there something I'm doing wrong? https://pastebin.com/fCHNuY7t
Using the MS calculator it looks like you are at 464k dps just right clicking, 665k dps with proper ancestral call positioning.
Seems like the dps is about right. I'm at T10 maps doing fine with 325k/450k dps.
edit - Noticed you didn't have onslaught checked. You might want to get that on a jewel or flask. Decent dps increase.
Also you don't have the Blade of Cunning wheel on passive tree. Adding both onslaught and Blade of Cunning wheel (3 points around the top) takes you to 537k/770k dps. Blade of Cunning is shown as 4 points around the bottom in the guide, but I'm not sure its worth it since we are point starved already.
that calculation is very wrong.
he should have easily over 1 mil dps if he will follow that build correctly.
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Using the MS calculator it looks like you are at 464k dps just right clicking, 665k dps with proper ancestral call positioning.
Seems like the dps is about right. I'm at T10 maps doing fine with 325k/450k dps.
edit - Noticed you didn't have onslaught checked. You might want to get that on a jewel or flask. Decent dps increase.
Also you don't have the Blade of Cunning wheel on passive tree. Adding both onslaught and Blade of Cunning wheel (3 points around the top) takes you to 537k/770k dps. Blade of Cunning is shown as 4 points around the bottom in the guide, but I'm not sure its worth it since we are point starved already.
For a 12-14 ex investment 600k dps is kind of laughable though, Sure its high life but I could get similar survivability and similar damage for a tenth of that cost with a different build so I'm just assuming I have something wrong in my build.
you are not following the guide correctly, whats do you expect?
missing 2 flassks
missing some points on the tree
no blood rage
no ancestral protector
low level anger
no quality on gems and weapon
go over the guide again and make sure you do every step right and have all of the gear and gems.
from POB, by only making a few fixes, i see your DPS is 240k.
i killed shaper with no problem when i had less dmg than than.
ofcourse that dps isnt your actual dps as i mentioned in the guide.
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Posted byHybridBoyon Mar 26, 2019, 3:00:55 PM
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Speaking of PoB dps display...
The guide PoB shows 60k per ball hit, mine and the previous guy's are 9-10k. I understand we're undergeared, but it seems most of that is more projectiles and faster attack speed, stuff that wouldn't affect per ball hit. I've checked the config tab and tried matching settings and the dps increase is minor.
Is there something I'm missing in PoB? 6x per-hit damage when most of our improvement is attack speed/projectile count seems off.
Even adding Xoph's Blood to my setup only improves my per hit dmg from 9.6 to 11.3.
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Posted bymaxvlaon Mar 26, 2019, 4:43:49 PM
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Speaking of PoB dps display...
The guide PoB shows 60k per ball hit, mine and the previous guy's are 9-10k. I understand we're undergeared, but it seems most of that is more projectiles and faster attack speed, stuff that wouldn't affect per ball hit. I've checked the config tab and tried matching settings and the dps increase is minor.
Is there something I'm missing in PoB? 6x per-hit damage when most of our improvement is attack speed/projectile count seems off.
Even adding Xoph's Blood to my setup only improves my per hit dmg from 9.6 to 11.3.
30% more ele dmg from helmet
flat damage mods on things like abyss jewels and rings.
ele pen enchant
wed pprojectile dmg on belt
legacy wise oak
cinderswallow flask
watchers eye with anger dmg mod
also make sure you setup POB correctly, its in the FAQ.
people always complain about having low dps in POB but they are just missing some check marks.
guys, stop worrying about damage.
without any special gear you should hit 200k+ dps on POB and its more than enough for everything.
maybe uber elder will be easier with more damage, but that fight is more about skill than anything else.
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Posted byHybridBoyon Mar 26, 2019, 5:06:37 PM
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you are not following the guide correctly, whats do you expect?
missing 2 flassks
missing some points on the tree
no blood rage
no ancestral protector
low level anger
no quality on gems and weapon
go over the guide again and make sure you do every step right and have all of the gear and gems.
from POB, by only making a few fixes, i see your DPS is 240k.
i killed shaper with no problem when i had less dmg than than.
ofcourse that dps isnt your actual dps as i mentioned in the guide.
Thing is I just made these changes as listed but the damage is just really dissapointing, I've been scratching my head as to why but I couldn't figure out. The only way I see to improve is spending another 15-20ex on minor improvements+ 20ex on a better helm. I'm not talking about pob damage, i'm going into t15, and guardian bosses and the damage is just visibly pretty low. I don't consider the pob accurate I only linked it to show you that i had pretty much all the components and was only really missing things because I was in the middle of adding and removing gems.
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Posted byCloudx05on Mar 26, 2019, 6:15:04 PM
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Yeah I just keep my blood rage so that it needs slightly less dex than the sword, 117 or so. Does the job!
And regarding the conversion, molten strike itself converts 60%, and Avatar of fire 50%.
Thanks! I never used Blood Rage before but the degeneration seems pretty insane. How confortable is using it while mapping/delving?
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Posted byFedeSon Mar 26, 2019, 6:39:16 PM
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Yeah I just keep my blood rage so that it needs slightly less dex than the sword, 117 or so. Does the job!
And regarding the conversion, molten strike itself converts 60%, and Avatar of fire 50%.
Thanks! I never used Blood Rage before but the degeneration seems pretty insane. How confortable is using it while mapping/delving?
Hm well I am at lvl 86 now, and I have enough life regeneration that I dont lose any health when I activate it (and also didnt when I was in the 7x levels somewhere).
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Posted byE_Zannon Mar 26, 2019, 7:06:31 PM
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Hey how important is armor on everything but the chest? Since we have iron reflexes, a few pieces with evasion is alright, but aim for armour I'm assuming?
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Posted byViktorious1on Mar 27, 2019, 4:54:21 AM
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