[3.13] TOXIC RAIN + HERALD OF AGONY Pathfinder Build (6-8K life) (UBER ELDER done!) +VIDEO GUIDE!

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sefa222 wrote:
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sefa222 wrote:
what does red circles in tree means in path of building
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so they are important to get first or

nope, i guess i've been just searching for something.. lol. If you input something in the search field below the tree it will highlight nodes containing the word. Sorry for confusion!
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I have not real source of blindly offensive, Maloney's Nightfall and Sin's Rebirth are used defensively.

Interesting!
Do you have a recording of your kill maybe?

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I bit more info guys!

I killed Shaper today, all guardians including elder guardians multiple times... All very easy. Shaper is also easy. Damage is there.
Hydra and Phoenix are easiest. Surprisingly Phoenix is even easier than Hydra, as he's walking and with massive pod AOE ge can be slowed down to oblivion..
Minotaur is normal, just don't get rekd by the rocks. The swing itself does not hurt much.
CHimera is of cause the hardest and longest. No brainer... Don't die on the "poson snakes" phase as well as the "hound" phase. Still easy.

Attempted Uber Elder several times and all were failure, downed them both below 50% and that's it. I need more damage or better skills for sure (and i've killed Uber Elder before).
This led me to an idea to get back from Quill Rain to Lioneye's Glare as i somehow realized i need STRONGER hits. I am constantly moving around so i technically can't just stand and spam stuff. So now i need a 6L Lioneye's.
Unfortunately i sank a lot of currency into shaper frags today, and i believe i won't be able to afford fuses for a 6L at this point or just buy more frags. If any of you guys have unneeded currency on Delve, or a 6L Lioneye's Glare for testing purposes = all would be greatly appreciated ! I will return the bow once i finish all testing!
I'll see tmorrow how much i have left.. so you can always watch my Uber Elder attempts on stream.
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I have not real source of blindly offensive, Maloney's Nightfall and Sin's Rebirth are used defensively.

Interesting!
Do you have a recording of your kill maybe?


I do not record video of my fight (I died 3 times), I just have screenshots.




I would try to make a good video of this fight.
Last edited by Ombre_vengerese on Oct 1, 2018, 7:30:53 PM
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I have not real source of blindly offensive, Maloney's Nightfall and Sin's Rebirth are used defensively.

Interesting!
Do you have a recording of your kill maybe?


I do not record video of my fight (I died 3 times), I just have screenshots.




I would try to make a good video of this fight.

Nice! I have questions for you if you don't mind. Will ask them in separate post
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Uber Elder is a tough fight, but absolutely doable as a Pathfinder Toxic Rain using Quill Rain. The fight won't be as easy as a 3.3 Arc Trapper with 2x Shimmerons, ofc. I bricked my first attempt, and then succeeded on the second while dying twice. On my second attempt, I targeted the Propagators better, focused more on what my Mirage was doing, and dodged *less* so I could have higher DPS.

I have a POB of my gear from that fight, and my Character Profile which has a few upgrades (and is mapping focused).

https://pastebin.com/fpmVmD9A
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/BlueeGreg/characters?characterName=The_Georgian

Here are some general recommendations and tips:

Change Witchfire Brew flask to Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Adrenaline. Our flask bonuses means this is +7 Max Cold Res for us, and Witchfire's curse isn't gonna do !@#$ in Uber Elder anyway. Also you never hold still in the fight, so the Smoke Cloud from Witchfire is also wasted.

Do not use Coralito, or other flasks like that. Dying Sun can be used since the extra arrows and area will solidify your boss DPS, but is probably too expensive given the budget focus of this build.

I recommend Life flask, Quartz, Sapphire, Silver, and Quicksilver. Can also use Sulphur, or Jade.

Herald of Agony feels like a noob trap to me. The DPS is hard to quantify and the mana reservation is hard to justify. I made my Agony into full utility 4L; Agony, Faster Attacks, Withering Touch, and Culling Strike. I don't think Uber Elder / Uber Shaper can actually be 'culled', so Culling can be changed for DPS, or maybe even Blind.

Like others have said, a 4L with RAT Barrage GMP and Withering Touch is very good for lasering in some Withering stacks. The uptime on this totem is very low in an Uber Elder fight, though.

Between your quiver and your Abyss jewel(s), you should have Blind on hit and Maim on hit. Onslaught on kill is great for mapping only, ofc. Additional Arrow on the quiver is nice, but not required.

Buy a 21/0 Toxic Rain gem; Pathfinder doesn't really need the increased area that the 20 Quality would give, though having the quality is still preferred.

Considering spec'ing aggressively for Skill Effect Duration. This means dropping paper DPS on the tree, like the 4 points leading into Heavy Draw, and even giving up a jewel socket, so you can reach the Skill Effect Duration area north of Scion. This costs 7 passive points, assuming you've already pathed into Scion life.

Lots of skill duration effectively acts as a 7th link for your Toxic Rain, and is categorically strong for large, slow bosses like Uber Elder. An ideal 6-link looks like Toxic Rain, Mirage Archer, Vicious, Void, Efficacy, and Swift. Swift/Efficacy could be changed to Added Chaos, if you're not using Thief's Torment and you really need reliable upfront life and mana leech.

Do not, under any circumstance, use Concentrated Effect. Just don't do it. It'll be OK.

Both Toxic Rain helmet enchants are good. Fossil crafting in the -9 Chaos Res aura is also worth doing, though the uptime on this during Uber Elder will be low.

During the fight, focus on where your Mirage Archer is shooting. He will never target the invulnerable phases, and he will know before you do when stuff has spawned off screen, like the DREADED EVIL PROPAGATORS WHICH MUST BE KILLED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. So if your Mirage is shooting something, you should probably be shooting that same something.

If you do die, consider waiting there for a few seconds while your Mirage Archer trucks away on whatever boss is targetable. I do believe the Mirage continues to do DPS like this. At the very least this will help clear your head.

I also used Herald of Purity for this fight, for the lulz and because I could afford the 25% mana res. The Purity dudes do seem to draw occasional aggro, and the herald gives you upfront DPS which helps with leech.

Good luck!
Hey Angry, thanks for the great guide.

I have some noob questions:

- Conc. effect, chaos damage or efficacy?

- RAT Barrage or ST Wither?

- Is this quiver better than maloney's?



Thanks again.
Last edited by babsbegood on Oct 2, 2018, 7:22:42 AM
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babsbegood wrote:
Hey Angry, thanks for the great guide.

I have some noob questions:

- Conc. effect, chaos damage or efficacy?

- RAT Barrage or ST Wither?

- Is this quiver better than maloney's?



Thanks again.

Chaos Damage all the way
RAT is pretty nice, but i prefer Spell Totem for now.
Good quiver, not better, just +1 arrow, maim, yet lower life and no additive phys. Maloney is a great defensive tool! As well as offensive since we constantlt blind enemies via smoke cloud of witchfire brew
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Last edited by Angry_Roleplayer on Oct 2, 2018, 11:37:05 AM
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BlueeGreg wrote:
Uber Elder is a tough fight, but absolutely doable as a Pathfinder Toxic Rain using Quill Rain. The fight won't be as easy as a 3.3 Arc Trapper with 2x Shimmerons, ofc. I bricked my first attempt, and then succeeded on the second while dying twice. On my second attempt, I targeted the Propagators better, focused more on what my Mirage was doing, and dodged *less* so I could have higher DPS.

I have a POB of my gear from that fight, and my Character Profile which has a few upgrades (and is mapping focused).

https://pastebin.com/fpmVmD9A
https://www.pathofexile.com/account/view-profile/BlueeGreg/characters?characterName=The_Georgian

Here are some general recommendations and tips:

Change Witchfire Brew flask to Experimenter's Sapphire Flask of Adrenaline. Our flask bonuses means this is +7 Max Cold Res for us, and Witchfire's curse isn't gonna do !@#$ in Uber Elder anyway. Also you never hold still in the fight, so the Smoke Cloud from Witchfire is also wasted.

Do not use Coralito, or other flasks like that. Dying Sun can be used since the extra arrows and area will solidify your boss DPS, but is probably too expensive given the budget focus of this build.

I recommend Life flask, Quartz, Sapphire, Silver, and Quicksilver. Can also use Sulphur, or Jade.

Herald of Agony feels like a noob trap to me. The DPS is hard to quantify and the mana reservation is hard to justify. I made my Agony into full utility 4L; Agony, Faster Attacks, Withering Touch, and Culling Strike. I don't think Uber Elder / Uber Shaper can actually be 'culled', so Culling can be changed for DPS, or maybe even Blind.

Like others have said, a 4L with RAT Barrage GMP and Withering Touch is very good for lasering in some Withering stacks. The uptime on this totem is very low in an Uber Elder fight, though.

Between your quiver and your Abyss jewel(s), you should have Blind on hit and Maim on hit. Onslaught on kill is great for mapping only, ofc. Additional Arrow on the quiver is nice, but not required.

Buy a 21/0 Toxic Rain gem; Pathfinder doesn't really need the increased area that the 20 Quality would give, though having the quality is still preferred.

Considering spec'ing aggressively for Skill Effect Duration. This means dropping paper DPS on the tree, like the 4 points leading into Heavy Draw, and even giving up a jewel socket, so you can reach the Skill Effect Duration area north of Scion. This costs 7 passive points, assuming you've already pathed into Scion life.

Lots of skill duration effectively acts as a 7th link for your Toxic Rain, and is categorically strong for large, slow bosses like Uber Elder. An ideal 6-link looks like Toxic Rain, Mirage Archer, Vicious, Void, Efficacy, and Swift. Swift/Efficacy could be changed to Added Chaos, if you're not using Thief's Torment and you really need reliable upfront life and mana leech.

Do not, under any circumstance, use Concentrated Effect. Just don't do it. It'll be OK.

Both Toxic Rain helmet enchants are good. Fossil crafting in the -9 Chaos Res aura is also worth doing, though the uptime on this during Uber Elder will be low.

During the fight, focus on where your Mirage Archer is shooting. He will never target the invulnerable phases, and he will know before you do when stuff has spawned off screen, like the DREADED EVIL PROPAGATORS WHICH MUST BE KILLED WITH EXTREME PREJUDICE. So if your Mirage is shooting something, you should probably be shooting that same something.

If you do die, consider waiting there for a few seconds while your Mirage Archer trucks away on whatever boss is targetable. I do believe the Mirage continues to do DPS like this. At the very least this will help clear your head.

I also used Herald of Purity for this fight, for the lulz and because I could afford the 25% mana res. The Purity dudes do seem to draw occasional aggro, and the herald gives you upfront DPS which helps with leech.

Good luck!

Hi and thanx for a massive input! HIGHLY APPRECIATED!
I sank 300c in shaper frags so it won't be soon before i start crafting a -9 helm, but yeah, it's in my priorities as well.
What do you think about Mirage Archer Quality? I thought doing 20/20 is pretty pointless for Quill Rain.
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Just killed uber elder after several tries. My eqs is as below, and i spec into duration as recommended BlueeGreg.



Overall is a hard fight, it's also a fight that can snowball very fast once you're died and the floor is covered with vortexes and the propagator degen. i also manage to up cold res to 86%, not sure if that helps but yeah.. and it's true you don't really need witchfire brew in this fight, i'm more like a bad player so my 5th flask are normally untouched. lol!

here is the youtube for anyone that's interested.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sI09DwqcyXM&feature=youtu.be

ps: is there anyway i can crop the video? i've been playing not on fullscreen for quite sometime as i frequently check pob n poetrade.

thanks!
Last edited by churoshyo on Oct 2, 2018, 4:40:54 PM

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