[3.11] Ice CRASH IT ALL Juggernaut * beginner & budget friendly! tank with high dps!

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Garyas wrote:

One more thing: in the revised buid, you have 2 non-unique flasks.
One obviously is a Life flask of staunching, the other a Diamond of Iron Skin.

However, as you dropped Kaom's, I think you need an "of Heat" and personally, I never leave my hideout without an "of warding" either. Esp. without Kaom's and hence loosing the temp chains invulnerability...

Not a major thing, but I thought worthwhile mentioning for people newly picking up the build.

I thought about Unstoppable instead of Unyielding.

Yeah, ok. You win some, you loose some :)

There are essentially 3 parts which you updated:
1) Gem link changes for Ice Crash
2) Addition of Blood and Sand as 3rd aura
3) changes to the passive tree

In principle you have room for 4 more gems in the boots by going from Kaom's to rares, but I chose to stick with Kaom's. Options could be a beefed up Ancestral Warchief setup, or more CWDT automation setups, or maybe even a Vaal DS 4L for even more boss dps.

You can do all of the changes independently of each other. I think 1 and 2 make sense in any case. I briefly tested the mana issue: seems to work fine, as the new support gems have lower mana multipliers.
I kept Blood Magic as 2nd support for LS though - dropping Golem as before.

for 3: in my case, with my gear etc, I gain approx 31% more damage from 3) alone. That's huge! At the cost of ~100 life, some phys mitigation(*), ~90 net life reg and some armor (for MS calculations). That's a very good deal I guess! The only downside for clearing could be that you also loose 5 AoE radius. 35 is still good though.

Btw, in both scenarios I go with the def ascendancy path as before.

(*) on phys mitigation:
with my old flask setup (Life of Staunching, Lion's Roar, Atziri, Diamond of Warding, Quicksilver of Adrenaline), I would loose 8%.
However, with perma LeapSlam, I don't really need movespeed, so I swapped the Quicksilver for a Sulphhur of Iron Skin. Which reduces the loss of phys mitigation to 2% (diminishing returns).

So...seems good. Eager to test it out!

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bashtart wrote:

I already posted and updates file... I kinda totally overworked the build:

PoB: https://pastebin.com/aG1LqkgA

Hi,

I've updated my passive tree to the one above (I think this is the latest one at the moment).

I also changed my armour to Loreweave.

I've managed to complete up to t12 maps so far without too much trouble, the life and mana passives just about cover the mana regeneration.

I've really enjoy this build, its a bit more squishy then my necromancer build (I can complete up to t15 maps with no problem with this build).

I know I need a bit more life, I only have 5009 life at the moment but I'm planning to add four more point to life on the passive tree when I level up.

I have one question I hope someone can help me with, would it be worth swapping Rage or Ruthless support for Melee Physical damage support for a very large dps boost ?

If anyone has any ideas of how to improve my build even further I would be very grateful. https://pastebin.com/KpM8dEhu

Sorted out most stuff on this build. Looking at upping my loreweave to a 6-link but not sure what mod i should be aiming for most.

I'll filter for max resistance and thinking a high elemental damage?

Also, for the last support gem, why i'm thinking pulverise over multi-strike (as multi doesnt seem to work properly when i tried it over ruthless).

Curious though, why not hypothermia? POB says its a massive boost and it plays really well with this build.

Would it be playing off DAM for Area of Effect with pulverise?

Hypothermia might even be better than ruthless.

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JarryS88 wrote:

Sorted out most stuff on this build. Looking at upping my loreweave to a 6-link but not sure what mod i should be aiming for most.

I'll filter for max resistance and thinking a high elemental damage?

Also, for the last support gem, why i'm thinking pulverise over multi-strike (as multi doesnt seem to work properly when i tried it over ruthless).

Curious though, why not hypothermia? POB says its a massive boost and it plays really well with this build.

Would it be playing off DAM for Area of Effect with pulverise?

Hypothermia might even be better than ruthless.

For Loreweave I would go for max. Res, life, high phy. Dmg and ele dmg. Priority from left to right.

Ok, respecced to the new build and did some testing. Damage (as mentioned above) is significantly higher, though you don't need it for trash clearing.

Due to smaller AoE and less Attack Speed, it feels less smooth than before.

If I had to do it again, I would probably spec to the new tree later (high red maps), when damage becomes more important.

Same goes for Rage Support: once you have ~30 stacks, it becomes really powerful. Before that, things are a bit slower. In maps with long travel distances between mob packs, it takes long to reach a high stack count. And if you are switching gems for the boss, you loose a lot of stacks.

Both trees are really strong, the new one even stronger but with a less smooth playstyle (the latter being of course somewhat subjective).

PS: Irrelevant, but still neither an Ex nor valuable item drop :(

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Garyas wrote:

Ok, respecced to the new build and did some testing. Damage (as mentioned above) is significantly higher, though you don't need it for trash clearing.

Due to smaller AoE and less Attack Speed, it feels less smooth than before.

If I had to do it again, I would probably spec to the new tree later (high red maps), when damage becomes more important.

Same goes for Rage Support: once you have ~30 stacks, it becomes really powerful. Before that, things are a bit slower. In maps with long travel distances between mob packs, it takes long to reach a high stack count. And if you are switching gems for the boss, you loose a lot of stacks.

Both trees are really strong, the new one even stronger but with a less smooth playstyle (the latter being of course somewhat subjective).

PS: Irrelevant, but still neither an Ex nor valuable item drop :(

You are right... the new skill tree is more focused on crit and scaling dmg. I guess if you switch kn increased area of effect instead of conc. effect the area should be more than enough. The best way to compensate the attack speed would be a faster weapon... maybe a rare mace with high attack speed and base crit chance with high physical dmg is annoption before high lvl.

I kinda wanna Test the new shockwave support but I am not quiet sure about it.

guys just look at my char ... with my current gear and i have biscos on now i got nearly 800 k dps fullbuffed in fights . when i switch on my good amulett and put hatred on (if i would got enlighten ) i would easy reach over 1 m dps tooltip. but i think to switch back from loreweave to my rare life cheft .
the dmg is still so good to clear any boss and i get nearly 1 k life more

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slickie wrote:

guys just look at my char ... with my current gear and i have biscos on now i got nearly 800 k dps fullbuffed in fights . when i switch on my good amulett and put hatred on (if i would got enlighten ) i would easy reach over 1 m dps tooltip. but i think to switch back from loreweave to my rare life cheft .
the dmg is still so good to clear any boss and i get nearly 1 k life more

If you have survivability issues the problem is Abyssus... I normally would not use that helmet except for some fights like Shaper.

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slickie wrote:

guys just look at my char ... with my current gear and i have biscos on now i got nearly 800 k dps fullbuffed in fights . when i switch on my good amulett and put hatred on (if i would got enlighten ) i would easy reach over 1 m dps tooltip. but i think to switch back from loreweave to my rare life cheft .
the dmg is still so good to clear any boss and i get nearly 1 k life more

my english is not so good sorry for that
can you check my char? i tried to be like your char and i have 126k dps.
what do i have to change. i have 500c now.