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I don't think I understand the spider spawning mechanics fully

I find the 1st pack of mobs, let my spectres take them down to 1 hp, desecrate, get some spiders. They then kill stuff and basically chain and refresh themselves when old ones run out. But what I've noticed is that sometimes, spider kills don't spawn new ones when their numbers are uncapped. If poison kills count as players kills and we have 100% chance to spawn, shouldn't spider kills spawn new ones whenever available?

Also, what do you do when your spiders run out during boss fights without adds? Is that just not a problem because spectres are strong enough? Just started maps, so haven't ran into this problem yet, but I'm just curious if it's troublesome later
Last edited by Ikafati on Mar 31, 2020, 12:15:00 PM
Kay, when do you plan to upgrade PoH and EB \ MoM builds? Or its final versions?
Heey!
First, thanks for the guide, they are VERY complete and very usefull, helped me a lot starting gaming, ty so much.

So, I'm using the Pledge of hands /eb & mon
I've a question!

Now I'm using the Stone Golem gem, but I was reading a little more your guide and saw the equips u can put in a animate guardian...

Which one do u think is better for this build?
(I'm using Solar Guard right now, but thinking about have Slave Driver for some bosses too)

Thanks for the help!

I craft new armor, think it will look good for spectres.
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Kay, when do you plan to upgrade PoH and EB \ MoM builds? Or its final versions?


I've been wondering what people would like to see. I can make a low budget version or high budget. Actually low budget is easy. It's mostly just swap W&S for PoH. High budget is quite different.
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Alctroz wrote:
Heey!
First, thanks for the guide, they are VERY complete and very usefull, helped me a lot starting gaming, ty so much.

So, I'm using the Pledge of hands /eb & mon
I've a question!

Now I'm using the Stone Golem gem, but I was reading a little more your guide and saw the equips u can put in a animate guardian...

Which one do u think is better for this build?
(I'm using Solar Guard right now, but thinking about have Slave Driver for some bosses too)

Thanks for the help!


AG is better, but if it dies all the gear on AG also dies. Only use AG if you can replace the gear easily. Or try using the 'cheap' version first.
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Ikafati wrote:
I don't think I understand the spider spawning mechanics fully

I find the 1st pack of mobs, let my spectres take them down to 1 hp, desecrate, get some spiders. They then kill stuff and basically chain and refresh themselves when old ones run out. But what I've noticed is that sometimes, spider kills don't spawn new ones when their numbers are uncapped. If poison kills count as players kills and we have 100% chance to spawn, shouldn't spider kills spawn new ones whenever available?

Also, what do you do when your spiders run out during boss fights without adds? Is that just not a problem because spectres are strong enough? Just started maps, so haven't ran into this problem yet, but I'm just curious if it's troublesome later


I noticed this as well. Are you using Redemption Sentry? The problem is that RS has some attacks that are 100% elemental. So if those kill the spiders, then no poison and no spawn.

The spectres can handle bosses without spiders.
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I finally have 5ex saved up, can someone explain to me exactly how I'm supposed to use that money to get the delve body armor from the spiders+spectres section? I don't know the first thing about delve or crafting or meta crafting. what even makes a body armor a "delve" one?
I noticed this as well. Are you using Redemption Sentry? The problem is that RS has some attacks that are 100% elemental. So if those kill the spiders, then no poison and no spawn.

The spectres can handle bosses without spiders. [/quote]

I've noticed this while leveling with Slave Drivers in acts. Also, I saw spiders killing mobs by themselves and still not spawning more. Very unusual
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kayella wrote:
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sierra47 wrote:
Kay,

I want to switch to Scale of Esh instead of Slave Drivers if I use Esh's breachstone and summon them there.

I then return to my hideout and summon one will I then always be able to summon them from my hideout?

Is there anything I should change in gem links or should they be the same as for slave drivers?

Thanks


Same gems links as SD!

OK, for SOE, you need to open your Esh stone then start the fight. Kill monsters until you kill a big spider thing.

You have to be careful! Don't explode the corpse with Offering, Trigger wand or Feast of Flesh from Diadem.

When you have raised the spectre, you can go to your HO to raise more. If you have the spectre with you, you can always summon more. Be careful not to despawn it.

You can also raise the spectre from esh breach in map!


Thank u so much Kay
This is like giant sci-fi spiders reigning death from the sky they may be all over the place but when they hit everything dies! more fun than Slave Drivers

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