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Sequincer wrote:
How are people using the Writhing Jar and Cyclone to trigger spiders? My zombies/BTs instantly kill them before I even get a chance to, what am I doing wrong?


You don't have the right helmet ^^
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Stanelis1 wrote:
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Sequincer wrote:
How are people using the Writhing Jar and Cyclone to trigger spiders? My zombies/BTs instantly kill them before I even get a chance to, what am I doing wrong?


You don't have the right helmet ^^


Well, that's the point, I don't want to use Speaker's Wreath and instead use a minion Bone Helmet or the Devouring Diadem so I can run MoM. I see lots of people on PoE Ninja running a minion helm, writhing jar, and cyclone to summon spiders, but whenever I do it, the minions just kill the worms way too fast so I feel like I'm missing something.
Last edited by Sequincer on Mar 30, 2020, 6:42:46 PM
Heya, I was using the kingmaker AG for a few days and its great. Like you said I avoided deep delve and HotGM, but sadly it died on sirius today. Did I miss something or am I supposed to not use AG during sirius either. (Got the currency to make another kingmaker AG)
Using S&S build, and I had a fun playing around with just only off-meta melee spectres, Redeemer Knights. Surprisingly they dealt a lot of dmg to sirius A8 and conquerors like melt butter, thanks to the new cluster jewels, Renewal and Rotten Claw.

I think this is my personal favourite build than SD/SG spectre build, mostly in term of endgame.

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Sequincer wrote:
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Stanelis1 wrote:
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Sequincer wrote:
How are people using the Writhing Jar and Cyclone to trigger spiders? My zombies/BTs instantly kill them before I even get a chance to, what am I doing wrong?


You don't have the right helmet ^^


Well, that's the point, I don't want to use Speaker's Wreath and instead use a minion Bone Helmet or the Devouring Diadem so I can run MoM. I see lots of people on PoE Ninja running a minion helm, writhing jar, and cyclone to summon spiders, but whenever I do it, the minions just kill the worms way too fast so I feel like I'm missing something.


Writhing Jar is an annoying thing to use. Your spectres, golem, animate guardian, zombies will usually hit the worms first. That's why I avoid it in my build.

There are some tricks you can do like cyclone or charge divine ire, but it's not 100% reliable. I used to do it like this:

1. cast desecrate at my feet
2. cast desecrate far away (minions will move there)
3. hold ball lightning key
4. use worm jar

It doesn't work all the time. I tried pure spiders with Sirus and had to log out to get flask charges again.
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kayella wrote:


Nice bow!

The +1 on the bow means you don't need the +1 amulet!

I recommend using Auls/Haste.


This should let you run Haste + Hatred + Skitters.

You could then try using Profane Proxy with Frostbite. I think this would be really good for mapping because the Skitters become a mobile Blasphemy aura.


You have enough mana to also run Dread Banner or spec out of Sovereignty and use the points for something else.

You don't even need a 6L +1 body anymore, so you can save some money there.



Yeah I've been using Aul's and Profane Proxy already with +1 wand.
My curse choice was Projectile Weakness though.

Sovereignty is actually a dps choice with aura effect path, it's better dps than Fearsome Force(same 3 points) for me right now.

Would there be another option if I don't use +1 body? 25% more damage and smoother gameplay from +1 spectre seems very hard to beat.
Last edited by Philarl on Mar 30, 2020, 9:41:49 PM
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Axyrus wrote:
What is more damage? the Bow and quiver setup with +1 to level of socketed gems and Socketed attacks deal more damage or the Convoking wand + Shield setup?


They're very similar dps wise if you get a good wand, and wand&shield setup can even beat the bow slightly if you go very high-end(w/o Victario's Charity).

Wand can have
-spell trigger(cost a lot with good dps)
-more ehp&block from shield or more dps with Victario's Charity(mainly frenzy charges)
-go full dps with dual wield wands.

Bow can have
-2 6Ls
-3 more sockets from quiver
-versatility from not being forced to use Pierce.
Last edited by Philarl on Mar 30, 2020, 10:08:14 PM
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Axyrus wrote:
what will you be running in the chest 6-link?


I'll simply migrate two 3Ls I'm using for AG and Carrion Golem, so AG-Carrion-Empower-Meat Shield-Elemental Army-Feeding Frenzy.
Minion behavior seemed decent when I tried both Meat Shield and Feeding Frenzy before(can swap Minion Life for Meat Shield).
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Philarl wrote:
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Axyrus wrote:
what will you be running in the chest 6-link?


I'll simply migrate two 3Ls I'm using for AG and Carrion Golem, so AG-Carrion-Empower-Meat Shield-Elemental Army-Feeding Frenzy.
Minion behavior seemed decent when I tried both Meat Shield and Feeding Frenzy before(can swap Minion Life for Meat Shield).


Oh, I was going to post a video about this. I actually recorded it, but might have deleted it alreeady.

Minion AI:

No links: Minions stand near your, will go/attack when you attack.

Feeding Frenzy: Minions run off, you don't need to do anything. Cannot stop them running off (can be dangerous for AG).

Meatshield: Minions stay next to you at all times.

FF + MS: similar behaviour as No links.

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Ok, I'm really loving the Redemption Sentries. What is the best route for a chest for these guys? A +1 spectre chest, a Vision for pierce or the explosion chest piece?

Edit: Kay, thanks for keeping the video guides/updates coming! They're really helpful!
Last edited by Severinze on Mar 30, 2020, 11:58:41 PM

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