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Can't wait for the Solar Guard alternative setup!

Currently running zizaran/steelmage SG but dying occasionally in T16s, looking for something safer but still speedy. Some people in here mentioned they found Slave Drivers a bit slow in comparison?

Would be awesome to have a pro/con for each spectre choice so we wouldn't need to personally try them all ><

Fantastic guide btw the amount of effort you are putting in here is amazing.

edit: oh I'm also super stoked you're trying an SSF run, which is where I'm playing ATM (equipping qual and IIQ for jewels atm [got the shield that way], farming jewel div cards). trying to get the guts to annul my wand before multimodding from +1 all spell skills ><

I did a spectre comparison early in the league: https://youtu.be/aaD5slUdtyE

The problem with projectile spectres is that the fireball (or whatever) will only hit the first monster in a pack. If you use Pierce to hit multiple monsters, you lose the secondary explosion on fireball, which adds a lot of damage. You also have the problem of needing 2 green sockets which is a massive loss of DPS compared to using 6 blue sockets if you want to swap for bosses. This is solvable with Vorici in research. Additinoally GMP is needed for better screen coverage, but that comes with 26% less damage modifier.

In my video, I get around the Pierce problem by using Pledge of Hands that gives them 4 projectiles per cast (3 repeats).

In contrast, Slave Drivers use an aoe spell, so anything under the spell effect is hit instantly. However the base aoe size is fairly small, so inc aoe is recommended. Pledge of Hands goes one step further with 150% increase area on 3rd repeat and you can see the spell effect reaches past the edge of the screen!

Regarding the SSF run through, it's more of a quasi-SSF as I'm doing it in league, but only using what I pick up.

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DestradoImpulse wrote:

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raniva wrote:

How much dps are you losing going from V2 wand from V1 wand. Check out my gear right now. I have about 2 ex worth of currency. Is it worth swapping to V2 and going with a life V2 build W/S?

Is it a big deal losing the power frenzy charges as well as flesh offering? Or is the survivability much more reliable with block vs dodge?

Not a big deal at all in my experience.

Lost about 350K Shaper/Guardian DPS from not proccing Frenzy charges along with no Commander of Darkness nor Flesh Offering, and still melted everything on T16 maps. One shots on W&Sv1 are now 2-4 shots on W&Sv2, and was able to survive Shaper energy beam for a split second.

Sitting at 391K Shaper/Guardian DPS with Feeding Frenzy active and and EE procced. Add another 210K DPS if Increased AoE is swapped out with Concentrated Effect.

P.S. I don't ever proc EE on trash mobs because they almost always die before it even takes effect, and that leaves us at 237K DPS!!

any merit in going in between and just swapping to w/sV2 and run flesh offering instead? And lose the power and frenzy charges. Also I have been seeing a lot of spectres swapping between death mark and feeding frenzy. Which one works better? I am thinking of swapping out FF for death mark and moving FF to zombies?

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DestradoImpulse wrote:

Thoughts on running Aul's Uprising for a free Determination in an effort to make our Summoners tankier??

Nice idea. It could even take the place of Precision since that is only giving a small bonus to spectres.

You should stream sometimes, Kay :D
would be enjoying watching you doing random stuff.

Hi Kay,

Wanna have your input on crafting convoking wands. Someone explained to me earlier but I dont seem to get how the damage calculations work. It is really difficult to roll an OP wand like yours, so I'm having a compromise for somewhere in thwe middle xD

First Wand:
+1 to Level of all Minion Skill Gems
Craft multiple mods
45% minion damage
14% minion cast speed
15% increased minion life
Trigger socketed spells

Second Wand:
110% minion damage
25% minion attack speed
24% minion cast speed
25% increased minion life
Craft multiple mods
Trigger socketed spells


I cant directly test the second wand as I'm still lacking of an exalt to craft multiple mods

The +1 level to minion skills is a global modifier right? So how much more of an impact does the first wand bring compared to the additional 65% increased in minion damage of the second wand.

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Maogunchar wrote:

You should stream sometimes, Kay :D
would be enjoying watching you doing random stuff.

I tried.
I sold a temple corruption altar last league and my potato PC couldn't even handle that without stuttering. :(

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MajWoody wrote:

I've probably read 200 pages of 600 but didn't find the answer to this: Why EW instead of conductivity?

"2. Armageddon Brand applies Elemental Weakness curse (-50% elemental res)."

Slave Drivers don't do enough damage in an individual hit on endgame bosses to proc a decent shock, so we use Skitterbots to apply a non-hit 20% shock. So the secondary effect of Conductivity is meaningless.

20/20 Conductivity and 20/20 Elemental Weakness apply the same -44% lightning res, but EW is all elemental, so you can use it with any spectre.

20/44 (linked with Enhance 4) Conductivity is still -44%, but EW is -50%.

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Wermine wrote:

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esgiepe wrote:

Hi there, sorry for maybe stupid question, but does the echo should give us summon 2 secrets instead of one (or 2 instead of 4 on higher levels)? if yes then I guess I'm doing smth wrong, since spell is casted only once.

If you're asking whether the Spell Echo support give us maximum number of spectres or not, the answer is: no.

Spell Echo makes us (and linked Spectres) cast the spell twice in rapid succession with one "activation". This means that Spectres cast their spells faster thus dealing more damage. Also means that if we raise a Spectre, we will raise two with one cast and that's problematic if there are undesirable corpses near our target corpse. So unsocket the Spell Echo while raising Spectres and socket it back again when you have maximum number of your desired Spectres.

If you have POH, you need to use weapon swap with Raise Spectre gem (probably level 20, but corrupted 20/0 gems are very cheap). Or alternative use Raise Zombie on undesired corpses and use Raise Spectre only when there are bunch of desired corpses on the ground.

Remember to use corpse target bind (default is "a"?).

Yes my question was around the ability to summon more Spectres, but now I underastad that the puropuse of Echo Support here is to multiply spells which THEY are casting - thanks for claryfication!

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zenrom wrote:

My point is pushing the build to where you just alc, vaal, fast look if there is Ele-reflect .No? just go fast mapping without worry there will be notice that you need to respawn at HO.Do at least some hours mapping like that. Or how deep you can go at delve.

If you want, I can show you how to make the build truly 'alch, vaal n go' and just ignore all map mods, including no regen and ele reflect. You'll pay for it in damage, though.

I can call it 'Zizaran mode'. ;)

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Davidsrl wrote:

The gem link checklist for the acts has gone after act two? Could this be re added please as was following it and very new to this? Thanks in advance.

Sorry about this. Version 2 of the build completely invalidates the previous gem list and levelling trees, so I removed them to avoid any confusion.

I'm relevlling a witch right now so I can put the correct gems in the guide. I'll try to finish it today.

As part of the levelling guide re-write, I've been able to make the process SSF-friendly and smoother than before.