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Bone barrier or plague for last ascendancy? I've taken Commander, my minions are pretty tanky but that bone barrier HP looks juicy, however it's like 50% uptime, vs plague that's more passive and hybrid damage/survival?

I am trigger wand+shield atm. I ask because I see people even with he same-setups having one or the other. I am leaning towards plague but don't want to respec out since I have to nearly respec my whole tree eventually.
Last edited by poeGT on Sep 23, 2019, 5:54:00 AM
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TheChosenOne_ wrote:
If I use pledge of hands do I have to change my other gear too or can I just use poh then save up for other stuff in the build?


You can use the Pledge straight up - just move the 6L spectre grouping to the staff. Then just move the wand & shield grouping to your chest/helmet.
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Arrensen wrote:
Thanks for your extensive build guide. Managed to kill Uber Elder with Shield & Wand build in ssf and after transitioning to trade league with PoH variant pretty easily.

Made a video of my latest kill, even though my expensive AG died (with Kingmaker), lost two Spectres because i forgot to convocate them out of the beam and played "catch the shaper balls" once. Other than that, damage is pretty good.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KWQA19ssSIg&t=1s


(used conc effect instead of inc AoE)


JUST LINK MINION LIFE
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poeGT wrote:
Bone barrier or plague for last ascendancy? I've taken Commander, my minions are pretty tanky but that bone barrier HP looks juicy, however it's like 50% uptime, vs plague that's more passive and hybrid damage/survival?


Bone Barrier gives the buffs on the description all the time. It's only Bone Armour that's on a cooldown.

I suggest taking Plague for more dps and also the 10% reduced damage taken, but make sure your spectres are res capped (since they won't be getting the 20% more life from BB).
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Psycomantje wrote:
Hej guys, why do u take commander of darkness over mistress of sacrifice btw?


Simply: easy resists and some DPS.

If you want to go Mistress, you probably want Bone Offering for block or Spirit Offering for ES gain. I would probably go Spirit because res capping spectres is important. Flesh Offering would mean your spectres losing 20% res.
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TheChosenOne_ wrote:
About how far can an above average wand+shield build go in delve?


I made it to 700 in Betrayal using CFEs without sulphite rotas:

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Last edited by kayella on Sep 23, 2019, 6:21:14 AM
Question regarding the +3 minion gem helmets for the Wand+Shield build:

I fully understand why when crafting a helmet you'd want to start with a Bone Helmet for the implicit, compared to other bases. I'm currently still orienting myself, but say I were to buy a helmet, rather than craft one myself, would there be any reason to limit myself to Bone Helmets?

Just browsing around a bit, and a helmet like this seems quite good, making it essentially a 6L with +3 to gems, as well as +life and + damage for all other minions, for 3 ex.

Rarity: Rare
Demon Peak
Necromancer Circlet
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Quality: +20% (augmented)
Energy Shield: 62 (augmented)
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Requirements:
Level: 68
Int: 76 (augmented)
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Sockets: B-G
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Item Level: 86
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+3 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 16 Minion Life
Socketed Gems are Supported by Level 20 Minion Damage
32% reduced Attribute Requirements
+377 to Accuracy Rating
Minions have 16% increased maximum Life
Minions deal 24% increased Damage
+17% to Fire and Lightning Resistances (crafted)
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Elder Item
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So is there a reason if I'd end up buying to not consider a helmet such as the one above over a lesser rolled Bone Helmet?


Update: This in comparison to say this Helmet, which is listed at 3.3 ex as cheapest:
Rarity: Rare
Onslaught Brow
Bone Helmet
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Quality: +20% (augmented)
Armour: 236 (augmented)
Energy Shield: 46 (augmented)
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Requirements:
Level: 73
Str: 76
Int: 76
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Sockets: B-R-R-B
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Item Level: 86
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40% increased Riposte Damage
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Minions deal 20% increased Damage
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+3 to Level of Socketed Minion Gems
+33 to Strength
+28% to Lightning Resistance
+69 to maximum Life (crafted)
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Comparing those gives me the impression badly rolled Bone Helmets may be overpriced?
Last edited by Sarjin on Sep 23, 2019, 6:53:28 AM
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buttcommander wrote:
can you just alt the wand until you hit the +1 minion and then multicraft
or is +1 minion so rare that its better to use Bound fossil?


It's hard to really tell. Bound fossils have a higher weighting towards minion mods whereas alt/regal will roll from the total pool of all mods. You could spend hundreds of alts and never see +1 minion, let alone +1 minion & some other useful mods.

In contrast, I hit this in 15 bound fossils.
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CVgMaDBgOD wrote:
In showcase PoH videos kayella does not use AG, is there a reason?
Kinda afraid to lose my "engame" geared AG


It depends on which character I recorded the video. Really early league 'endgame' content is recorded on standard because I have all the gear already. But none of my standard characters have an AG because I never remember to save gear for it and I delete Kayella at the start of every league to re-use the name. If that makes sense.

And there's also a new configuration I'm testing. If anyone is following my character in league, you may notice some strange gem choices in my chest:


I'm currently running 4x SDs + 1 Carnage Chieftain. According to PoB, frenzy charges can give 50% more dps. So if the baseline is 1mil DPS, then 5x 1mil = 5 vs 4x 1.5mil = 6. It is fairly consistent too, and would be available in boss fights unlike Poacher's Mark.




If anyone else wants to try it, please leave some feedback!
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Last edited by kayella on Sep 23, 2019, 6:51:31 AM
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kayella wrote:
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CVgMaDBgOD wrote:
In showcase PoH videos kayella does not use AG, is there a reason?
Kinda afraid to lose my "engame" geared AG


It depends on which character I recorded the video. Really early league 'endgame' content is recorded on standard because I have all the gear already. But none of my standard characters have an AG because I never remember to save gear for it and I delete Kayella at the start of every league to re-use the name. If that makes sense.

And there's also a new configuration I'm testing. If anyone is following my character in league, you may notice some strange gem choices in my chest:


I'm currently running 4x SDs + 1 Carnage Chieftain. According to PoB, frenzy charges can give 50% more dps. So if the baseline is 1mil DPS, then 5x 1mil = 5 vs 4x 1.5mil = 6. It is fairly consistent too, and would be available in boss fights unlike Poacher's Mark.


I hear that CChief wont have enough mana to sustain cast Frenzy even we use clarity.

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